why are there so many more people playing flatout 2 than UC

[Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ]

isn't UC basically 2 with more content? + achievements

[Mr. Miazma]

I guess they like dealing with tons of patch bugs and want to listen to bad music

I don't think FOUC is as known or popular as FO2, though, even in the Flatout fanbase

[Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ]

strange yeah
UC is so much better lol

[TGC> The Games Collector]

Because FlatOut 2 is the best one.

[Kouen]

Because Fo2 is the base

[Regis]

UC has drab graphics, simplified physics, and significantly worse music, so it's not really all that surprising. Plus it feels a lot less chaotic and dynamic to play. Plus FO2 multiplayer is working.

[|aX| Rekki]

Honestly mostly the music. UC has some artists I like such as The Sleeping, Dead Poetic and A Static Lullaby but Flatout 2 is almost wall to wall bangers. I want to look at modding the music for UC on Steam Deck but not sure how easy it is.

[Mr. Miazma]

Originally posted by Regis:

UC has drab graphics, simplified physics, and significantly worse music, so it's not really all that surprising. Plus it feels a lot less chaotic and dynamic to play. Plus FO2 multiplayer is working.

Multiplayer is barely working for the community from what I read on the discussions, graphics are subjective, and the chaos feels equal to me I don't understand that particular critique? Knocking 2's music is moreso a jab in general because I thunk FOUC's music is garbage too, but both games OSTs can easily be modded. I did a destruction derby 2 ost for FOUC, I'll probably do one for FO2 as well.

What would probably win me over back to 2 is if textures are easier to mod. All I'm trying to do is make the Bonecracker a Death Proof paint job, you wouldnt believe what a pain in the ass it is for FOUC, for one little dds file edit

[Regis]

UC has streamlined car handling and collision physics. There is less impact from various pieces of debris, and they have a tendency to be stuck inside your car a lot more often. It is much easier to just plow through some obstacles compared to the original. It feels more arcade-y, but in the wrong kind of way.

Having somewhat functional multiplayer trumps not having one at all. I haven't had any issues with it.

I agree about graphics and music being subjective, but it seems pretty clear to me what the community prefers. Personally, i felt that the drab brown filter was a significant downgrade from the original's vibrant and colorful aesthetic and was certainly a product of its time that has aged poorly.

The soundtrack went from having famous bangers to a bunch of unknowns that were nowhere near as good. (And it was still missing 'Beat the Boys' from part one, dammit.)

[StreamWhenGuy]

I've just bought and tried the OG FlatOut 2...
Dunno what "simplified physics" people are talking about. Feels literally the same to me. PCgamingwiki doesn't mention anything about it being the case, either. Played both games at 100 FPS (default max FPS cap).
The graphics in the original is worse (subjectively ofc).
Music for UC you can just mod in. There's a mod for that.
There's no controller button prompts in the original game (though controller does work with a different from UC layout).
FOV in general and especially during nitro in the OG one is overkill and just bleh.
UC has achievements.
Multiplayer idgaf about.

Thanks, I choose UC.

[Mr. Miazma]

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

I've just bought and tried the OG FlatOut 2...
Dunno what "simplified physics" people are talking about. Feels literally the same for me. PCgamingwiki doesn't mention anything about it being the case, either.
The graphics in the original is worse (subjectively ofc).
Music for UC you can just mod in. There's a mod for that.
There's no controller button prompts in the original game (though controller does work with a different from UC layout).
FOV in general and especially during nitro in the OG one is overkill and just bleh.
UC has achievements.

Thanks, I choose UC.

Me either. It is the same. I guess from a community level FO2 wins, but I choose the so called underdog. Plus, no Bonecracker in FO2, instant lose for me

additionally: Just tried to make a custom OST for FO2 and it refuses to work, and insists on giving me all of the issues in the world, where it is dead simple to do it for this one. So thats an additional oof for me

[B Dawg]

Originally posted by Regis:

UC has drab graphics, simplified physics, and significantly worse music, so it's not really all that surprising. Plus it feels a lot less chaotic and dynamic to play. Plus FO2 multiplayer is working.

UC has superior graphics (2's post processing effects are too excessive if enabled), and the series was never known for having a good soundtrack anyway (the 1st game's soundtrack is the best in the series but still not that good). The soundtracks suffered from too much unfitting pop rock and or emo garbage.

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

Dunno what "simplified physics" people are talking about. Feels literally the same to me.

Try driving on Desert Oil Field on both games (preferably with Street Class), you'll very easily notice a huge difference.

Originally posted by Regis:

Having somewhat functional multiplayer trumps not having one at all. I haven't had any issues with it.

UC still has functional multiplayer (because GFWL itself still works), it is just hard to get into, especially with the keys running out and the game being updated to a GFWL-less version, requiring people to go through a lot of hoops.

Anyway to answer the OP, until recently, UC was just harder to get into on PC due to Games For Windows Live. That's pretty much the whole reason the game was avoided by most people on PC.

[StreamWhenGuy]

Originally posted by B Dawg:

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

Dunno what "simplified physics" people are talking about. Feels literally the same to me.

Try driving on Desert Oil Field on both games (preferably with Street Class), you'll very easily notice a huge difference.

Refunded the game so can't do unfortunately. If that's really the case, then someone skillful enough should make a mod to address that if possible, although both games are not racing simulators and are just fun arcade games. I doubt there's really that huge of a difference, but I might be wrong.

[Gironda Curls]

does Flatout 2 actually have controller support or do you have to map all the buttons?

[HerZie]

Originally posted by Mr. Miazma:

I guess they like dealing with tons of patch bugs and want to listen to bad music

I don't think FOUC is as known or popular as FO2, though, even in the Flatout fanbase

Ah yes, when I think bad music I instantly think Audioslave, Rob Zombie and Megadeth. Right my fellow zoomers?

[Mr. Miazma]

Originally posted by HerZie:

Rob Zombie

lol if you're going to defend a band, don't pick Rob

What else can you name off? Pop rock emo trash? Well, anyways in the end it comes down to tastes, and I quite clearly don't like what litters the FO2/UC soundtracks. So what. Get bent about it if you want to, but I'm going to have the same opinion either way :shrug: