P-2 needs a huge rework before i drop this game for good

[irritable bowel syndrome]

well, P-2 is the final nail in the coffin for me.

i don't think anyone sane in the community finds the tedious eight whole encounters fun, and that all the cope in the forums so far is just for peer approval. you are forced to play chicken instead of confronting the boss directly thanks to all the idol ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and the unreasonable amount of enemies overall puts a sour taste to p-2 by using LE LORE REASONS (last-minute hearsay-flavored word salad from useful idiots in the community) as justification to ruin the formula and add a glorified cybergrind. even if you liked this for whatever reason, you probably didn't like the boss, and that's exactly why the level has the annoying enemy spam in the first place.

to make matters worse, it is once again a wide hellhole full of enemies you absolutely cannot reach without the whiplash (which, let me remind you, still punishes you just for using it). either that, or you're stuck in tiny rooms with enemies capable of big explosive attacks and nauseating tunnels that damage and teleport you for grazing the barely recognizable red goop in it, forcing you to only go certain directions when you are surrounded by all sorts of enemies capable of sniping you from afar. let me reiterate: you are punished for trying to evade attacks like a normal person. this brings me into the next issue.

"spoilers" ahead (even though everyone already knew what the boss was going to be anyways): sisyphus prime. he's annoying. he shrugs off every single weapon in your arsenal and yet constantly beats down on you. hakita didn't have an idea on what to do with this boss except make minos but with twice of everything. twice the hp, twice the stamina, twice the shockwave spamming. you cannot dash away from his attacks, so what do you do? slide to preserve your stamina? no, he can hit you from behind and to the side if you do that. do you parry his attacks to refill your stamina, like what the balance changes tell you to? no, because the point of evasion and using stamina is to get AWAY from the enemy, which is apparently something hakita still doesn't understand in the five years he developed this game despite acclaiming himself as a better game designer than everyone else back when he decided that he hated people playing however they wanted and nerfed the whiplash. half a year was spent waiting on this update, and yet the big prize was a slap to your face and hakita personally scrutinizing you for thinking you were going to get a normal formulaic prime sanctum level where the boss alone is the experience of a lifetime. instead of learning something and the game forcing you to get better, you have to work around terrible level design and a sadistic mishmash of enemies that have no business being there, no matter how the elitist, tryhard, skull-bashing, pastel-worshipping idiots spin it around as LE SKILL ISSUE!!!1!! it is objectively bad game design.

you know what the worst part is? this update specifically encourages you to use parrying more often, and yet the best idea the developers had was to reward you was a full stamina refill, as if it doesn't already do that in three seconds. i have an idea; maybe let parrying blessed enemies break their idols if you're going to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the player with two invincible mindflayers that are free to spam all the homing projectiles and beams they want as they take advantage of your attention span being torn apart by several other enemies in the room?

i have been a fan of this game from the moment i bought it back when greed was the big new thing, and though i had my ass handed in P-1, it was a fair and fun fight that forced you to learn something. P-2 isn't. you have enemies deliberately placed to make you rely on the utilities hakita doesn't want you to use, and the only way you can reasonably beat this level is if you exploit glitches like dash storage that he will most likely nerf in the future if he finds people having too much fun with it, just like he did with the whiplash.

with that being said, i uninstalled this game and, unless the developers want to admit they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and fix the one level they had months to make, i'm not planning to touch it again. knowing the devs and their recent obsession with making everything about memes and self insert fumos however, that's probably not going to happen.

bye.

[irritable bowel syndrome]

frequently argued quips:

"but they said it would be hard, why are you complaining?"
ultrakill itself is hard and very daunting from an outsider's perspective. the gameplay flourishes from its high skill ceiling and knowledge of the advanced tech that isn't exactly required for bosses, but is very satisfying and rewarding to pull off if you enjoy speedrunning. the developers ruined this premise by throwing so many obstacles in your way before you had permission to fight the boss, which ruins the standards P-1 set; it was just you and two bosses, nothing else. this is all the top targets in the cybergrind that nobody likes thrown in your face before getting to the real challenge- minos prime but twice the size and twice the health. this was a letdown for both people who wanted something different and people who wanted a familiar experience. if a difficulty spike was to be mandatory for p-2, it should be a difficulty spike by the boss itself, not a difficulty spike by borderline cheating.

"but you can just dash storage to avoid damage, what gives?"
this is bordering on what hakita's bootlickers on discord would say about the whiplash; relying too much on one thing is bad game design, especially when it has no consequences. also, i didn't think to use dash storage because i never needed to exploit the game's spaghetti code before this update.

"skill issue"
go back to twitter

[one one]

sisyphus prime is garbage but the arenas are hella fun

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by 1_1:

sisyphus prime is garbage but the arenas are hella fun

well what if i told you there was a whole gamemode where you could experience encounters like that and not have to fight sisyphus prime?

[Proteus]

the idol'd mindflayers really pissed you off lmao

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by AOS:

FP 0.5 has been the biggest blueball on this early access so far, a whole ARG and hype videos for something that never happens on the fight?, not even gonna count this poor cube as a boss.

I also agree PS should be about the player against the bosses only, the care and love should be focused on making the flesh prison and the prime soul unique and challenging, instead we got unfair cybergrind waves, a harmless cube and a minos after cheat day with a second phase that feels very RNG heavy.

I already know the devs not gonna change a thing about it tho and thats the biggest dissapointment, don't be surprised if P3 follows this exact route sadly.

i really wish the ultrakill community wasn't divided between people who expect real updates and work put into said updates and mindbroken tryhards who don't have the spine to admit that the new update wasn't fun at all

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by AOS:

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

i really wish the ultrakill community wasn't divided between people who expect real updates and work put into said updates and mindbroken tryhards who don't have the spine to admit that the new update wasn't fun at all

i did 2 minos feedbacker only on violent and still think P2 feels rushed and weird lol, people spamming skill issue don't change the facts, the main plate of this update was P2 and its underwhelming, im very afraid of how P3 gonna look when the time comes TBH

you should be more worried about act 3 overall. i literally uninstalled the game because i lost hope in anything getting better

[one one]

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

Originally posted by 1_1:

sisyphus prime is garbage but the arenas are hella fun

well what if i told you there was a whole gamemode where you could experience encounters like that and not have to fight sisyphus prime?

buddy, if you don't like arenas with enemies spawning in, why did you P-rank every level in the game

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by 1_1:

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

well what if i told you there was a whole gamemode where you could experience encounters like that and not have to fight sisyphus prime?

buddy, if you don't like arenas with enemies spawning in, why did you P-rank every level in the game

i p-rank every level in the game because p-1 was a fun fight and i wanted something similar to it but instead i found myself annoyed because it gave me more of those enemies instead of sending me straight to the boss

dumbass

[one one]

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

Originally posted by 1_1:

buddy, if you don't like arenas with enemies spawning in, why did you P-rank every level in the game

i p-rank every level in the game because p-1 was a fun fight and i wanted something similar to it but instead i found myself annoyed because it gave me more of those enemies instead of sending me straight to the boss

dumbass

why would you play a game where you kill arenas of enemies and then complain about all the arenas of enemies

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by 1_1:

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

i p-rank every level in the game because p-1 was a fun fight and i wanted something similar to it but instead i found myself annoyed because it gave me more of those enemies instead of sending me straight to the boss

dumbass

why would you play a game where you kill arenas of enemies and then complain about all the arenas of enemies

does p-1 have an arena of enemies, or does it introduce you to a boss right away?

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

There's a reason people say Skill Issue & Git Gud you know, its not always people trolling.

Assuming they aren't trolling it effectively means: The reason you aren't having fun is because your skill is too low for the content, there are various fixes, such as working on getting better or lowering the difficulty.

While if you truly believe skill isn't the issue causing you to not have fun, know we disagree and find the content fun.

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by Finder:

There's a reason people say Skill Issue & Git Gud you know, its not always people trolling.

Assuming they aren't trolling it effectively means: The reason you aren't having fun is because your skill is too low for the content, there are various fixes, such as working on getting better or lowering the difficulty.

While if you truly believe skill isn't the issue causing you to not have fun, know we disagree and find the content fun.

yeah and i encountered one of those people, he took twice as long to finish it as i did.

yes, i know "trolling" is a thing of the past and that people are genuinely stupid enough to spout phrases they already heard out of someone else's mouth instead of taking the time to actually think about what they want to say.

i can explain why i hate the level as much as i do and you can't, because i already know you only argue in pre-recorded messages. your opinion is automatically worthless to me.

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

yeah and i encountered one of those people, he took twice as long to finish it as i did.

yes, i know "trolling" is a thing of the past and that people are genuinely stupid enough to spout phrases they already heard out of someone else's mouth instead of taking the time to actually think about what they want to say.

i can explain why i hate the level as much as i do and you can't, because i already know you only argue in pre-recorded messages. your opinion is automatically worthless to me.

... Congrats, you managed to go on for 500 characters and said nothing both relevant and meaningful about what I said.

"I can explain why I hate the level as much as I do and you can't" ... Yeah, you got me there, I can't explain why I hate the level... Seeing as how I don't.

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Originally posted by Finder:

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

yeah and i encountered one of those people, he took twice as long to finish it as i did.

yes, i know "trolling" is a thing of the past and that people are genuinely stupid enough to spout phrases they already heard out of someone else's mouth instead of taking the time to actually think about what they want to say.

i can explain why i hate the level as much as i do and you can't, because i already know you only argue in pre-recorded messages. your opinion is automatically worthless to me.

... Congrats, you managed to go on for 500 characters and said nothing both relevant and meaningful about what I said.

"I can explain why I hate the level as much as I do and you can't" ... Yeah, you got me there, I can't explain why I hate the level... Seeing as how I don't.

oh, right, you're a midwit. you can't understand anything unless i dumb it down to pseudointelligent terms and buzzwords. that's why you're arguing with semantics instead of proving me wrong.

welp, i guess i should stop bothering with this conversation!

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by THE LEGENDARY NUMBER ONE CHUDCEL:

oh, right, you're a midwit. you can't understand anything unless i dumb it down to pseudointelligent terms and buzzwords. that's why you're arguing with semantics instead of proving me wrong.

welp, i guess i should stop bothering with this conversation!

... I NEVER tried to prove you wrong man, I'm just watching you argue with yourself effectively.