1-1 Under 10 Seconds?

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

So, I'm starting to try to go through the stages to get perfect ratings on them and get all of the Secrets, after beating the game and getting a decent (but not perfect or S rating) on most of the stages in the game.

But I'm stuck on 1-1. Found four of the secrets hidden away, but I have searched high and low and cannot seem to find any others anywhere in the stage. I even got a button press hidden that I needed to freeze a rocket in mid-air to reach easily.

I don't see any other hidden walls after checking every wall I had access to, so I have to ask - is it actually possible to do this stage in under 10 seconds, or is that just trolling me?

Obviously it's not possible to get the skulls in that time, because the blue skull alone - even speed-running it - would take upwards of 30 seconds at least to get to its spot. Which isn't even the end of the level, there's a room you then have to fight through.

So I was hoping to find a teleport, but can't find any hidden walls, destructable environmental features, and even tried using rocket jumps and such to go back up the starting shaft without any luck.

Any hints? I feel like spending the last 40 minutes combing this stage is enough for me.

I'm missing one secret plus the "challenge" of beating it in under 10 seconds.

[Cits]

You can beat the stage in under 3 seconds casually, you leave the stage like any other and its possible to have or not have what you need the first time you play through the level.

[colonel]

when you land on the terminal room, do a slam storage and jump back up, this will bring you to 0-5 under just 3 seconds

[Jigmac]

The fountain at the start holds the secret, il let you figure it out from here.

[Watereaters]

Toss a coin to your fellow hellspawn

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by Cits:

You can beat the stage in under 3 seconds casually, you leave the stage like any other and its possible to have or not have what you need the first time you play through the level.

That isn't beating it though, is it?

Originally posted by gas station weed tweakers:

when you land on the terminal room, do a slam storage and jump back up, this will bring you to 0-5 under just 3 seconds

I tried jumping back up with rockets and such and hit an invisible ceiling, I'll maybe give that a shot.

Originally posted by Jigmac:

The fountain at the start holds the secret, il let you figure it out from here.

I'll take a look, thanks.

[papey]

slightly more obvious hint: make a wish at the start ;)

[Lyra]

What was the one where you had to use a rocket to reach a button? I can't think of any secrets that needed rocket riding except for one or two which don't have a button.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by papey:

slightly more obvious hint: make a wish at the start ;)

Thanks. I'm okay with secrets that are hard to find, but when there's no in-game hint it is more annoying than interesting. I'll keep that sort of thing in mind moving forward though.

Originally posted by Lyra:

What was the one where you had to use a rocket to reach a button? I can't think of any secrets that needed rocket riding except for one or two which don't have a button.

Well, there's a glass roof in the final battle room that you can shoot out with a button above it. But it's too high to jump and there's no pillars or such you can jump from at the right angle, so jumping on a frozen rocket was the only way I could get up there.

[zab]

who sees a fountain and DOESN'T toss a coin in it?

[Lyra]

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

Originally posted by papey:

slightly more obvious hint: make a wish at the start ;)

Thanks. I'm okay with secrets that are hard to find, but when there's no in-game hint it is more annoying than interesting. I'll keep that sort of thing in mind moving forward though.

Originally posted by Lyra:

What was the one where you had to use a rocket to reach a button? I can't think of any secrets that needed rocket riding except for one or two which don't have a button.

Well, there's a glass roof in the final battle room that you can shoot out with a button above it. But it's too high to jump and there's no pillars or such you can jump from at the right angle, so jumping on a frozen rocket was the only way I could get up there.

Ah, that. Have you found the other buttons yet?

It was added before the rocket launcher existed. You can get up there a number of ways: repeated slam jumping, explosives, slam storage, etc

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by Lyra:

Ah, that. Have you found the other buttons yet?

It was added before the rocket launcher existed. You can get up there a number of ways: repeated slam jumping, explosives, slam storage, etc

I have found one other button, which was after fighting an optional double boss. But frankly I never really looked for secrets my first couple of times through. I have played through twice, with a few stages being repeated extra times to get better ratings, but only now am I trying to get secrets and such.

Slam jumping I didn't think could be chained, and other explosives don't seem to move me normally. But I admit my knowledge and abilities to utilize more advanced game mechanics is still growing. It wasn't until I beat the game twice that I learned you could "punch" shotgun blasts for example, or learned that your multiplier seems to increase if you are moving fast/sliding, or learned that you can shoot shotgun-released explosives for a bigger boom (or a frozen rocket, but that one was more obvious).

[The Knowledgeseeker's]

I would recomand that you try look for button in all level in act 1. If you find all 4 of them you get a cool reward in 1-4 behind the one in 1-4

[Lyra]

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

Originally posted by Lyra:

Ah, that. Have you found the other buttons yet?

It was added before the rocket launcher existed. You can get up there a number of ways: repeated slam jumping, explosives, slam storage, etc

I have found one other button, which was after fighting an optional double boss. But frankly I never really looked for secrets my first couple of times through. I have played through twice, with a few stages being repeated extra times to get better ratings, but only now am I trying to get secrets and such.

Slam jumping I didn't think could be chained, and other explosives don't seem to move me normally. But I admit my knowledge and abilities to utilize more advanced game mechanics is still growing. It wasn't until I beat the game twice that I learned you could "punch" shotgun blasts for example, or learned that your multiplier seems to increase if you are moving fast/sliding, or learned that you can shoot shotgun-released explosives for a bigger boom (or a frozen rocket, but that one was more obvious).

read the "tip of the day" on the shop terminals. they include things such as shotgun projectile boosting.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by Lyra:

read the "tip of the day" on the shop terminals. they include things such as shotgun projectile boosting.

Yeah, I did see some of those.

I only used shops about ten or twenty times or so though in my game so far, since the only reason I would use them is to double-check enemy weaknesses a handful of times or to buy a weapon upgrade (which there are only a limited number of and you get pretty much all of them by playing the game through once).

[Lyra]

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

Originally posted by Lyra:

read the "tip of the day" on the shop terminals. they include things such as shotgun projectile boosting.

Yeah, I did see some of those.

I only used shops about ten or twenty times or so though in my game so far, since the only reason I would use them is to double-check enemy weaknesses a handful of times or to buy a weapon upgrade (which there are only a limited number of and you get pretty much all of them by playing the game through once).

i checked the shop at the beginning of every level, specifically because there was always a new tip there.