ULTRAKILL
Wave Jan 19, 2021 @ 1:43pm
Why does V1 get attacked by the Machines, King Minos and Gabriel?
It's obvious that the demons are hostile towards V1 and with obvious reason. V1 seems to see the demons as a source of fuel so the demons see V1 as a threat. This fact made me question the reason why other enemies see V1 as something to attack.

For King Minos, it could be that V1 has entered his "Court" or the fact that King Minos seems to be possessed by demons. This possession is obvious due to the large flesh like snakes that come out of his corpse.

For the Machines ( Swordsmachine and V2 ), the only real reason I could see them attacking you would be out of competition. This doesnt necessarily make sense considering V1 seems to be the only machine to be healing / repairing itself off blood. The Machines could be attacking V1 solely because their death would be one less machine killing the demons and giving them more blood. This could be evidenced by the fact that V1 can heal off the machines, which wouldnt make sense considering they are solely machines. Maybe V1 isn't the only one healing off blood?

Lastly, we have Gabriel attacking us in the corpse of King Minos. The idea that Gabriel seems to claim that the corpse of King Minos is some sort of Palace is quite odd but it might be the only reason why Gabriel attacks. Could it be the fact that V1 didn't listen to Gabriels threats? Could Gabriel see V1 as a trespasser?

It's very odd that we are attacked by more than just demons in Ultrakill. I hope these answers will eventually be answered in coming chapters. On a personal note, I'm very happy with the story and even more so than in the gameplay. I was blown away that I found a game that makes DOOM seem slow. Congrats to the dev of this game.
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wandering elf Jan 20, 2021 @ 1:45am 
If I remember correctly, V2 is not powered by blood... When you beat him, you will unlock some lore, tactics, etc. in shop... If you read lore about V2 (It's few line, u can do this... :D), you will learn that V1 is the only model that can refuel from contact with blood due to special plating... V2 is equipped with standardized plating for more durability, but loosing that special ability, that V1 has...
That also explains why V2 doesn't get HP back, when he/she/it hits you while he/she/it is close to you...

So why is V2 fighting you makes as much sense as why is he/she/it in hell in the first place... (No sense, but I hope lore explains it)

ALSO: WHY V2 drops blood on hits???

ALSO ALSO: And what about sword machine, drones and Cerberus??? Is't Cerberus just a statue???
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Wave Jan 20, 2021 @ 8:06am 
Personally, I really don't think that V2 isn't powered by Blood. It would make more sense that they are powered by Blood but whatever the Lore states could be misleading. I think all the Machines are powered by Blood. Wouldn't it be a huge detriment to the machine if healing by Blood was removed when fighting hordes of demons and other blood filled enemies? Especially when the name V2 implies they are to be the improvement of V1?

It would make sense considering that these machines seem to only have Blood as the readily available source of fuel. The only enemies that I don't really see being powered by Blood are the Street Sweepers with the fuel canister on their backs. Maybe something like thermal energy would make sense, but wouldn't that make places like Limbo and Lust barren of fuel?

If you want some proof as to why I think some of the Lore could be wrong, keep in mind that V1 is a machine and somebody or some program could be controlling what they see. I doubt that the same red metal door room is the entrance to Hell or even there is an identical room leading down the throat of King Minos. It wouldn't be hard to accept that some of the lore might be intentionally misleading so that V1 can accomplish somebody else's goal unknowingly.

Moving onto Cerberus, I don't believe he is just a statue. When you think about it, almost all the demons in this game have a very rough stone like appearance. Malicious Face and Hideous Mass both have the same looking stone exterior. The only enemy that is classified as a demon but doesn't have a stone like appearance is the demon we don't know much about and that is Something Wicked.
Last edited by Wave; Jan 20, 2021 @ 10:00am
Hakita  [developer] Jan 20, 2021 @ 12:01pm 
Some small corrections:

The lore bit is specifically referring to V1 being the only one who can repair and refuel itself from contact with blood, while other machines have to perform a blood refuelling process in order to do the same thing. This is why bosses like V2 and Swordsmachine don't heal themselves when they hit you at close range and also the reason for why they have much higher HP than V1 does. All machines are fuelled by blood.

Also, Something Wicked isn't classified as a demon, it isn't given any classification in the enemy files.
Wave Jan 20, 2021 @ 12:58pm 
Very interesting. I should have paid closer attention on the bits with the machines healing. On the part of Something Wicked, I went off the interpretation from the Fandom site for Ultrakill which lists Something Wicked as a demon.

Can't believe I'm responding to the main developer for the game. Congrats on such a masterpiece like Ultrakill. I'll be playing it long after it is finished.
Vanta Jan 20, 2021 @ 10:42pm 
My personal view of the story is the robots killed off humanity for their blood to power themselves, then humanity went extinct and the machines started to lose power slowly, so they race down to hell to refuel, so they start fighting each other and the demons for blood, The Angels seem to also see the machines as unholy objects that do not belong. V1 is a prototype machine which has automated blood collection based on contact with blood, the rest have to do a manual refueling using blood. V2 the other variant of V1 sacrifices blood collection for more armor.
Wave Jan 21, 2021 @ 6:52am 
For the two people above me, those would make sense somewhat. It explains why the Machines are in Hell, the competition between the Machines, why Gabriel seems hostile towards us and V2. However, Hakita did mention that Machines like V2 and Swordsmachine go through a "Blood Refueling Process". I wonder if this means that another machine ( Wouldn't make sense unless there is a surplus of blood these machines could use ) or some surviving humans ( these machines have been shown to teleport so they may just teleport to the refueling areas and get refueled. )

V1 being a secret villian is a possibility. This brings in the big question of the "Mission" statement we see at the very beginning of the game. A command is put out stating that V1's objective is to "Find a Weapon". This is a command from some external force other than V1 stating that V1 should do something. While on the subject of V1's control, I think the red rooms we constantly encounter are a way to keep V1 on a path to some destination. Those red rooms led us past Cerberus and down the throat of King Minos.

Good or bad, somebody or something controls V1 and is guiding their paths or actions.
Last edited by Wave; Jan 21, 2021 @ 7:21am
Originally posted by lowercase v:
...What if V1 is in fact a secret villain?
Oh it's no secret. You play as the villain.
Because it's a crime how stylish he is.
Watereaters Jan 25, 2021 @ 9:23am 
Because you murked those husks in the tutorial, they just wanted to welcome you in and you just blew their head off with a single punch.

The machines are also jealous of your superior blood sucking technology
Wave Jan 25, 2021 @ 11:24am 
Ultrakill is just a fancy story of "The Cycle of Violence". I should have realized that.
fuazo Jan 27, 2021 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Hakita:
Some small corrections:

The lore bit is specifically referring to V1 being the only one who can repair and refuel itself from contact with blood, while other machines have to perform a blood refuelling process in order to do the same thing. This is why bosses like V2 and Swordsmachine don't heal themselves when they hit you at close range and also the reason for why they have much higher HP than V1 does. All machines are fuelled by blood.

Also, Something Wicked isn't classified as a demon, it isn't given any classification in the enemy files.
if all machine are power by blood.....what are they powered from when mankind is not dead? nuclear power?
i mean it cant be fuel by blood right? unless they are fuel by animal blood
Wave Jan 28, 2021 @ 8:12am 
I'd assume the machines were always made to counteract the demon forces in Hell. Considering it is widely abundant and the Blood could be used to refuel mid-combat, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that killing demons were the only purpose these machines had.

What were the machines powered by pre humanities downfall? Either the blood of demons the humans had in supply or nothing at all considering they were not made yet.
Burger Mar 2, 2021 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by xXX_GLOBAL_POTATO_2342_XXx:
If I remember correctly, V2 is not powered by blood... When you beat him, you will unlock some lore, tactics, etc. in shop... If you read lore about V2 (It's few line, u can do this... :D), you will learn that V1 is the only model that can refuel from contact with blood due to special plating... V2 is equipped with standardized plating for more durability, but loosing that special ability, that V1 has...
That also explains why V2 doesn't get HP back, when he/she/it hits you while he/she/it is close to you...

So why is V2 fighting you makes as much sense as why is he/she/it in hell in the first place... (No sense, but I hope lore explains it)

ALSO: WHY V2 drops blood on hits???

ALSO ALSO: And what about sword machine, drones and Cerberus??? Is't Cerberus just a statue???
no its stated that all of them refuel its just that v1 can absorb it on the spot and because of that needed thinner armour so the blood can soak
joati Mar 8, 2021 @ 2:48pm 
i think that the corpse of Minos was like other layer of the hell or something, i think that Gabriel try to destroy V1 why he wasnt a living being and why the machines attacks V1. I dont know (im Spañish so i dont know a lot of english).
Burger Mar 8, 2021 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by Wave:
Especially when the name V2 implies they are to be the improvement of V1?
well no it has been stated that v1 was for war and v2 was made for the times of piece v2 having thicker armor plates but as a result was no longer able to absorb blood on the fly requiring repairs from an external source v2 was meant to be a peace keeper
Wave Mar 9, 2021 @ 3:15pm 
If what I am getting from that, is because V1 isnt a living creature I can understand. That kinda plays into the idea of V1 being seen as a tresspasser. The "Layers of this palace is not for your kind" could be interpreted as "Only dead people should come through here, not robots like yourself so you need to go away." Gabriel might be enforcing this, as his title is "Judge of Hell" which means he's the one deciding where people go in Hell.

I half wonder, even though I think this is wrong, if Gluttony really does take place inside of King Minos. An entire layer / circle of hell is inside the King's stomach? Seems unlikely to me.
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