Why buy this when the dev is ok with pirating it?

[Ebony Woman Enjoyer]

Honest question.

[TasteOfSunlight]

引用自 Sharkbilby：

引用自 Archivist：

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[Kuobano]

引用自 Ebony Woman Enjoyer：

Honest question.

Y not.

[BohemianCat]

To give the devs money to fund the game.

[Kuobano]

引用自 GiantClams：

To give the devs money to fund the game.

That's what i'm saying bruh, I agree.

[Jagdtiger]

Piracy is a service issue, that's the foundation that steam was built on. The time, effort and risk involved in pirating software can be bypassed with a simple payment and quick download on steam

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

引用自 Jagdtiger：

Piracy is a service issue, that's the foundation that steam was built on. The time, effort and risk involved in pirating software can be bypassed with a simple payment and quick download on steam

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

[super 4]

引用自 Sharkbilby：

引用自 Jagdtiger：

Piracy is a service issue, that's the foundation that steam was built on. The time, effort and risk involved in pirating software can be bypassed with a simple payment and quick download on steam

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

there is
no matter how "safe" a site is, you are still downloading from a random person on the internet, they can very easily put malware into the game and youd have no idea

"oh but ive been pirating games since forever and never gotten anything!!!"
you think you havent because malware isnt as in your face as youd be led to believe, most malware nowadays is completely silent, it does its thing then disappears, which makes it really hard to know if you actually got any viruses from a pirated game, since even if you scan with an antivirus afterwards, by then the virus is already gone

now there are tools you can use to mitigate the chances of getting a virus (such as virustotal) but even then, youll never be 100% safe when pirating, the only safe form of piracy is downloading roms, and even then some emulators (like old versions of project 64) have vulnerabilities that let games escape the emulator and run code on your actual pc, which opens the door to a ♥♥♥♥ ton of really bad malware. you can never be safe when pirating

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

引用自 super lugi chevrolet 200：

引用自 Sharkbilby：

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

there is
no matter how "safe" a site is, you are still downloading from a random person on the internet, they can very easily put malware into the game and youd have no idea

"oh but ive been pirating games since forever and never gotten anything!!!"
you think you havent because malware isnt as in your face as youd be led to believe, most malware nowadays is completely silent, it does its thing then disappears, which makes it really hard to know if you actually got any viruses from a pirated game, since even if you scan with an antivirus afterwards, by then the virus is already gone

now there are tools you can use to mitigate the chances of getting a virus (such as virustotal) but even then, youll never be 100% safe when pirating, the only safe form of piracy is downloading roms, and even then some emulators (like old versions of project 64) have vulnerabilities that let games escape the emulator and run code on your actual pc, which opens the door to a ♥♥♥♥ ton of really bad malware. you can never be safe when pirating

With live monitoring from an antivirus and pre-installed downloads from sites trusted by a large amount of people who have used the same site for a really long time, it sounds very unlikely that anything bad would come through, even if you (wrongly) decided to download without an antivirus on.

It sounds like you're the one downloading from random people on the internet and not anyone who's trusted with piracy and has things to lose if they were exposed for having malware in their cracks. I specifically stated that there's no extra risk or effort if you know what you're doing.

[AHotdogVendor]

引用自 Ebony Woman Enjoyer：

Seriously, why should I pay $25 when the dev doesn't mind people paying nothing?

because you give the devs money. that's it. if you can, support the developer by buying a legal copy.
if you want more ULTRAKILL, then they need some ULTRACASH.

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

引用自 AHotdogVendor：

引用自 Ebony Woman Enjoyer：

Seriously, why should I pay $25 when the dev doesn't mind people paying nothing?

because you give the devs money. that's it. if you can, support the developer by buying a legal copy.
if you want more ULTRAKILL, then they need some ULTRACASH.

The only online features right now are leaderboards and speedrun leaderboards between your friends. Is that really worth $25?

And no, the devs will not personally contact you just for purchasing their game.

[Jagdtiger]

引用自 Sharkbilby：

引用自 Jagdtiger：

Piracy is a service issue, that's the foundation that steam was built on. The time, effort and risk involved in pirating software can be bypassed with a simple payment and quick download on steam

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

The point is and always has been that it's more effort. You need to know where to get it, and are inherently at risk of malicious people interfering. You also have to wait for updates, manually update it, etc. People who can't afford a game won't buy it, and therefore will pirate it, which doesn't result in a loss of sales. People who can afford the convenience of buying on steam just do so, since £20 is pocket change to people employed in rich countries, and haggling about it with pirates isn't worth your time. Also, the CB and level leaderboards are online and steam exclusive

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

引用自 Jagdtiger：

引用自 Sharkbilby：

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

People who can't afford a game won't buy it, and therefore will pirate it, which doesn't result in a loss of sales.

Not true.

引用自 Jagdtiger：

引用自 Sharkbilby：

There's no extra effort or risk if you know what you're doing. If a game doesn't have any online or steam exclusive features whatsoever, there's not much reason not to pirate if you know how to. Unless you're in a parasocial relationship with the devs and feel better thinking they really appreciate it.

Also, the CB and level leaderboards are online and steam exclusive

I literally admitted that.

[BohemianCat]

引用自 GiantClams：

To give the devs money to fund the game.

Adding onto what I said earlier, another good reason to buy the game and not pirating it is you'll get newer versions of the game a lot faster.

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

引用自 GiantClams：

引用自 GiantClams：

To give the devs money to fund the game.

Adding onto what I said earlier, another good reason to buy the game and not pirating it is you'll get newer versions of the game a lot faster.

Fair enough. Though it also makes getting older versions of the game if you dislike the newer versions a nightmare.

[super 4]

引用自 Sharkbilby：

引用自 super lugi chevrolet 200：

there is
no matter how "safe" a site is, you are still downloading from a random person on the internet, they can very easily put malware into the game and youd have no idea

"oh but ive been pirating games since forever and never gotten anything!!!"
you think you havent because malware isnt as in your face as youd be led to believe, most malware nowadays is completely silent, it does its thing then disappears, which makes it really hard to know if you actually got any viruses from a pirated game, since even if you scan with an antivirus afterwards, by then the virus is already gone

now there are tools you can use to mitigate the chances of getting a virus (such as virustotal) but even then, youll never be 100% safe when pirating, the only safe form of piracy is downloading roms, and even then some emulators (like old versions of project 64) have vulnerabilities that let games escape the emulator and run code on your actual pc, which opens the door to a ♥♥♥♥ ton of really bad malware. you can never be safe when pirating

With live monitoring from an antivirus and pre-installed downloads from sites trusted by a large amount of people who have used the same site for a really long time, it sounds very unlikely that anything bad would come through, even if you (wrongly) decided to download without an antivirus on.

It sounds like you're the one downloading from random people on the internet and not anyone who's trusted with piracy and has things to lose if they were exposed for having malware in their cracks. I specifically stated that there's no extra risk or effort if you know what you're doing.

youve admitted to downloading from steam unlocked (which has a lot of evidence of it packaging malware with its games), so i dont think you know what youre doing

antiviruses dont protect you from viruses, they will catch the basic ones, but anything better will just slip through the cracks, again, viruses are as sneaky as possible to not get caught, so even if you havent noticed anything it doesnt mean youre safe, because malware like info stealers are near impossible to detect unless you really know what youre doing

you are never 100% safe when pirating, because at the end of the day, every file you download is from a random person hosting a website with pirated games in it, and you have 0 clue if anything extra is added to the game, which is why its much more preferable to get games from actual store fronts like steam, because you are NEVER getting malware when downloading a game from steam, period