Who would win? Doomguy vs V1

[War Criminal]

Let's say, one way or another these 2 end up meeting, who would end up winning the fight?
lets say we're working with DOOM eternal's doomguy here - though i'd love to hear if you think some other iteration would beat v1.

2 rounds, the first with base weapons, V1 with only the feedbacker and revolver, and doomguy with his shotgun (and whatever else he had at the beginning of eternal)

and the 2nd with them both having everything they have at the end of the game, or the would-be end in ULTRAKILL's case.
Ruling out alternative weapons, for now, i suppose.

[Gremmer]

If we go off lore, doomguy wins, and if we go on numbers, doomguy also wins

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

If we go off lore, doomguy wins, and if we go on numbers, doomguy also wins

the numbers are different metrics so if we actually go by properly scaled numbers, v1 would win. lore wise, maybe, but the game betrays its own lore to allow doomguy to die, so thats bunk too, unless you consider saving and loading part of the lore lol. in which theyre both invincible then

[Gremmer]

How do you scale the numbers?

[Gremmer]

Also doomguy kills the leaders of hell, while v1 can't even finish off an angel

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

How do you scale the numbers?

considering theyre both based on quake live's railgun and act the same way, i think it'd be fair to consider the fight like instagib, 1 hit 1 kill

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

Also doomguy kills the leaders of hell, while v1 can't even finish off an angel

he do be beatin his ass though. hell was too easy for v1 that angels had to step in like wtf man

[Gremmer]

But doomguy in his game can take a lot more hits compared to ultrakill, where v1 can crumple like tissue paper from 4 bites

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

But doomguy in his game can take a lot more hits compared to ultrakill, where v1 can crumple like tissue paper from 4 bites

yah thats offset by his ability to heal immediately. i still think logistically the fight would be over in 2 seconds for whoever lands a rail/guass shot first, and considering v1's movement tech doomguy wouldnt even have a chance to look up before he eats a shot

[Gremmer]

But doomguy could tank a shot, he has armor and more health

[Gremmer]

Anyways, I'm done arguing. Have a good day skeleton

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

But doomguy could tank a shot, he has armor and more health

doomguy is also in quake champions and gets owned by a rail shot just as much, so instagib seems like an apt comparison

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Slug Cat:

Anyways, I'm done arguing. Have a good day skeleton

you too

[Brig Lig Smoke]

once again, wouldn't V1 be able to parry the gauss cannon shot? or maybe charge it back?

[cheese]

i think there's a good difference between doomGUY (classic doom) and doomSLAYER (doom eternal).

by lore i think that doomslayer would absolutely stomp v1, a million times over. doomslayer is beyond a god. it's literally impossible to harm him in any way, and he's killed far greater than someone like sisyphus, which is the dark lord. by gameplay of course this is obviously not really fair, but we're talking about lore. for the dark lord, creating a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ multiverse is the same as breathing to him. that alone should show his extreme power and ability. sisyphus and minos were able to be locked up and gabriel is easily beaten by v1.

i think doomguy though would probably lose to v1 not gonna lie

but if we measure by gameplay:

doomslayer is nerfed into the ground in 2016 and eternal. it turns out that playing faster than light isn't exactly humanly possible in gameplay. so of course everything is balanced out. v1 wins easily.
and doomguy is also easily stomped by v1. i mean it's pretty obvious why.

they're honestly kinda evened out this way. v1 wins in gameplay, doomslayer wins in lore. therefore i don't see it wrong to call it a draw. despite this though, nobody will truly agree with anyone and there will be no end to this discussion.

[cheese]

both can beat goku i think that's what matters most

[Fb||Pit601]

V1 has An advantage in the first round because he could parry Doom slayer's shotgun pellets with the feedbacker, BUT If slayer had all of his super-weapons(The Crucible,BFG,Unmakyr and The Sentiel hammer) in the second round V1 would have a huge chance to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥.