Who would win? Doomguy vs V1

[War Criminal]

Let's say, one way or another these 2 end up meeting, who would end up winning the fight?
lets say we're working with DOOM eternal's doomguy here - though i'd love to hear if you think some other iteration would beat v1.

2 rounds, the first with base weapons, V1 with only the feedbacker and revolver, and doomguy with his shotgun (and whatever else he had at the beginning of eternal)

and the 2nd with them both having everything they have at the end of the game, or the would-be end in ULTRAKILL's case.
Ruling out alternative weapons, for now, i suppose.

[Lambda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BlindBat:

Okay after some more thinking. Lore Doom Slayer would easily destroy V1. In one of the lore entries in Ultra Kill states that V1 is frail because it was needed to be able to absorb blood efficiently so its plating is thin etc. I'm assuming everyone here is going off of the game-play from each respected game instead the deeper lore. But if you only go off the game-play and what you see each respected character do it is very noticeable that they play very similarly but in Eternal you can gather up more insane speeds with the Meathook (you can fly to space if you line yourself up correctly in Eternal). Going off of game-play their power level is pretty similar but we have not yet to see how far V1 can truly go yet but damn V1 has some impressive feats in game-play.. It's hard to decide going off of only game-play who would win... Also really depends on what difficulty you are playing the game on.. I really should not be analysing this much. Game characters are as powerful as the writers want them to be ha ha. I'll try my best to just stop here. Someone may release a video online trying to answer this question for me anyways. Also heck the punch power in Eternal is mad weak compared to Doom 2016 punch. (They nerfed it so bad).

Doomman has the microwave beam, which is an instant kill basically

dude has the mentality of a 10 year old

[Lambda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BlindBat:

Okay after some more thinking. Lore Doom Slayer would easily destroy V1. In one of the lore entries in Ultra Kill states that V1 is frail because it was needed to be able to absorb blood efficiently so its plating is thin etc. I'm assuming everyone here is going off of the game-play from each respected game instead the deeper lore. But if you only go off the game-play and what you see each respected character do it is very noticeable that they play very similarly but in Eternal you can gather up more insane speeds with the Meathook (you can fly to space if you line yourself up correctly in Eternal). Going off of game-play their power level is pretty similar but we have not yet to see how far V1 can truly go yet but damn V1 has some impressive feats in game-play.. It's hard to decide going off of only game-play who would win... Also really depends on what difficulty you are playing the game on.. I really should not be analysing this much. Game characters are as powerful as the writers want them to be ha ha. I'll try my best to just stop here. Someone may release a video online trying to answer this question for me anyways. Also heck the punch power in Eternal is mad weak compared to Doom 2016 punch. (They nerfed it so bad).

yeah lore-wise doomguy would ♥♥♥♥ up V1 easy, gameplay wise is a different story

[TheCraftNCreator]

Doomslayer "in lore" doesn't exist. For those out of the loop, supposedly the lore version of Doomslayer is capable of blowing up multiverses with a twitch of his pinky finger. And if you think that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Looking further into most of the claims, it's all based on taking hyperbole as fact.

The one big feat the wankers (people who miscalculate a character's power in their favor) will tell you on and on about is that "Doomslayer killed Davoth, who made the multiverse, which makes him multiversal".

But then you take a look at the actual boss fight, and it's not an epic battle in the cosmos with planets blowing up, it's a fight against a mech where the screensaver changes every once in a while. You even kill him with sub-standard sci-fi weapons. The whole fight is a giant anti-feat.

Why isn't Davoth using his multiverse powers? Maybe it's because the creation powers he has doesn't have any combat application? And by extension, maybe defeating him doesn't require multiversal strength?

Something powerscalers love to do though, is cherry-pick the ♥♥♥♥ out of evidence. The conclusion reached is that 98% of Doom:Eternal isn't canon. It's almost like something is wrong when you have to discard the majority of content as 'outliers'.

The reality of Doomslayer's strength is actually pretty close to V1's, thought V1 wins simply because he doesn't need to use ammo and can heal mid-fight.

[Gremmer]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

Doomslayer "in lore" doesn't exist. For those out of the loop, supposedly the lore version of Doomslayer is capable of blowing up multiverses with a twitch of his pinky finger. And if you think that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Looking further into most of the claims, it's all based on taking hyperbole as fact.

The one big feat the wankers (people who miscalculate a character's power in their favor) will tell you on and on about is that "Doomslayer killed Davoth, who made the multiverse, which makes him multiversal".

But then you take a look at the actual boss fight, and it's not an epic battle in the cosmos with planets blowing up, it's a fight against a mech where the screensaver changes every once in a while. You even kill him with sub-standard sci-fi weapons. The whole fight is a giant anti-feat.

Why isn't Davoth using his multiverse powers? Maybe it's because the creation powers he has doesn't have any combat application? And by extension, maybe defeating him doesn't require multiversal strength?

Something powerscalers love to do though, is cherry-pick the ♥♥♥♥ out of evidence. The conclusion reached is that 98% of Doom:Eternal isn't canon. It's almost like something is wrong when you have to discard the majority of content as 'outliers'.

The reality of Doomslayer's strength is actually pretty close to V1's, thought V1 wins simply because he doesn't need to use ammo and can heal mid-fight.

Errm ackually, to heal v1 has to get close, which then doomman can use the microwave beam

[Gremmer]

And it really doesn't matter that the demons in doom are not multiversal, when everyone in ultra kill is on the same power level relative to each other. A cacodemon would be a huge bullet sponge for v1

[SHOCKOUT]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

Doomslayer "in lore" doesn't exist. For those out of the loop, supposedly the lore version of Doomslayer is capable of blowing up multiverses with a twitch of his pinky finger. And if you think that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Looking further into most of the claims, it's all based on taking hyperbole as fact.

The one big feat the wankers (people who miscalculate a character's power in their favor) will tell you on and on about is that "Doomslayer killed Davoth, who made the multiverse, which makes him multiversal".

But then you take a look at the actual boss fight, and it's not an epic battle in the cosmos with planets blowing up, it's a fight against a mech where the screensaver changes every once in a while. You even kill him with sub-standard sci-fi weapons. The whole fight is a giant anti-feat.

Why isn't Davoth using his multiverse powers? Maybe it's because the creation powers he has doesn't have any combat application? And by extension, maybe defeating him doesn't require multiversal strength?

Something powerscalers love to do though, is cherry-pick the ♥♥♥♥ out of evidence. The conclusion reached is that 98% of Doom:Eternal isn't canon. It's almost like something is wrong when you have to discard the majority of content as 'outliers'.

The reality of Doomslayer's strength is actually pretty close to V1's, thought V1 wins simply because he doesn't need to use ammo and can heal mid-fight.

Errm ackually, to heal v1 has to get close, which then doomman can use the microwave beam

+CHARGEBACK

[super 9]

slug cat is the biggest "im right and youre wrong" guy ive ever seen here i swear to god

[Gremmer]

Diposting pertama kali oleh super luigi chevrolet 2006:

slug cat is the biggest "im right and youre wrong" guy ive ever seen here i swear to god

So true

[God's Chosen Procrastinator]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

Doomslayer "in lore" doesn't exist. For those out of the loop, supposedly the lore version of Doomslayer is capable of blowing up multiverses with a twitch of his pinky finger. And if you think that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Looking further into most of the claims, it's all based on taking hyperbole as fact.

The one big feat the wankers (people who miscalculate a character's power in their favor) will tell you on and on about is that "Doomslayer killed Davoth, who made the multiverse, which makes him multiversal".

But then you take a look at the actual boss fight, and it's not an epic battle in the cosmos with planets blowing up, it's a fight against a mech where the screensaver changes every once in a while. You even kill him with sub-standard sci-fi weapons. The whole fight is a giant anti-feat.

Why isn't Davoth using his multiverse powers? Maybe it's because the creation powers he has doesn't have any combat application? And by extension, maybe defeating him doesn't require multiversal strength?

Something powerscalers love to do though, is cherry-pick the ♥♥♥♥ out of evidence. The conclusion reached is that 98% of Doom:Eternal isn't canon. It's almost like something is wrong when you have to discard the majority of content as 'outliers'.

The reality of Doomslayer's strength is actually pretty close to V1's, thought V1 wins simply because he doesn't need to use ammo and can heal mid-fight.

This is something I have internally said to myself whenever I think about this: if God is just a Marauder with more health and slightly more complex attacks, then defeating God isn't really all that impressive. Hence why I like to ignore "lore" when it comes to determining how game characters would fare against each other or in each others' worlds

I think V1 and Doomguy fighting would be a close match, but V1 would be more likely to come out on top due to their mobility (Doomguy can dash twice and has a double-jump, but V1's movement allows them three dashes that recharge independent of grounded status, ground slams, and wall jumps, allowing them to throw off Doomguy's aim with good schmovement while he can't achieve the same thing thanks to his more limited options and V1 having at least two weapons - marksman and attractor - that can aim for them when used correctly)

This is a bit moot if extra lives are being accounted for (which I don't) though since Doomguy can just come into the fight with like 10 of them and be guaranteed a win

[super 9]

Diposting pertama kali oleh funny fella:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

Doomslayer "in lore" doesn't exist. For those out of the loop, supposedly the lore version of Doomslayer is capable of blowing up multiverses with a twitch of his pinky finger. And if you think that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Looking further into most of the claims, it's all based on taking hyperbole as fact.

The one big feat the wankers (people who miscalculate a character's power in their favor) will tell you on and on about is that "Doomslayer killed Davoth, who made the multiverse, which makes him multiversal".

But then you take a look at the actual boss fight, and it's not an epic battle in the cosmos with planets blowing up, it's a fight against a mech where the screensaver changes every once in a while. You even kill him with sub-standard sci-fi weapons. The whole fight is a giant anti-feat.

Why isn't Davoth using his multiverse powers? Maybe it's because the creation powers he has doesn't have any combat application? And by extension, maybe defeating him doesn't require multiversal strength?

Something powerscalers love to do though, is cherry-pick the ♥♥♥♥ out of evidence. The conclusion reached is that 98% of Doom:Eternal isn't canon. It's almost like something is wrong when you have to discard the majority of content as 'outliers'.

The reality of Doomslayer's strength is actually pretty close to V1's, thought V1 wins simply because he doesn't need to use ammo and can heal mid-fight.

This is something I have internally said to myself for decades: if God is just a Marauder with more health and slightly more complex attacks, then defeating God isn't really all that impressive. Hence why I like to ignore "lore" when it comes to determining how game characters would fare against each other or in each others' worlds

I think V1 and Doomguy fighting would be a close match, but V1 would be more likely to come out on top due to their mobility (Doomguy can dash twice and has a double-jump, but V1's movement allows them three dashes that recharge independent of grounded status, ground slams, and wall jumps, allowing them to throw off Doomguy's aim with good schmovement while he can't achieve the same thing thanks to his more limited options and V1 having at least two weapons - marksman and attractor - that can aim for them when used correctly)

This is a bit moot if extra lives are being accounted for (which I don't) though since Doomguy can just come into the fight with like 10 of them and be guaranteed a win

if bringing extra lives to the battle were allowed then v1 would be allowed to bring an overheal orb and 10 dual wield powerups to make it a fair fight

[Gremmer]

Diposting pertama kali oleh super luigi chevrolet 2006:

Diposting pertama kali oleh funny fella:

This is something I have internally said to myself for decades: if God is just a Marauder with more health and slightly more complex attacks, then defeating God isn't really all that impressive. Hence why I like to ignore "lore" when it comes to determining how game characters would fare against each other or in each others' worlds

I think V1 and Doomguy fighting would be a close match, but V1 would be more likely to come out on top due to their mobility (Doomguy can dash twice and has a double-jump, but V1's movement allows them three dashes that recharge independent of grounded status, ground slams, and wall jumps, allowing them to throw off Doomguy's aim with good schmovement while he can't achieve the same thing thanks to his more limited options and V1 having at least two weapons - marksman and attractor - that can aim for them when used correctly)

This is a bit moot if extra lives are being accounted for (which I don't) though since Doomguy can just come into the fight with like 10 of them and be guaranteed a win

if bringing extra lives to the battle were allowed then v1 would be allowed to bring an overheal orb and 10 dual wield powerups to make it a fair fight

doomman would still win if he got the lives, because he can use the shield lol

[super 9]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh super luigi chevrolet 2006:

if bringing extra lives to the battle were allowed then v1 would be allowed to bring an overheal orb and 10 dual wield powerups to make it a fair fight

doomman would still win if he got the lives, because he can use the shield lol

what is a rinky dinky shield useful against 70 nuclear bombs

[TheCraftNCreator]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Errm ackually, to heal v1 has to get close, which then doomman can use the microwave beam

V1 isn't sticking to close range, they're going to be attacking from medium distance and abuse their mobility advantage over Doomslayer. What little dodging the slayer can do is countered by sticking him with magnets and then firing rockets and nails.

In a prolonged fight, ammo becomes a serious issue for Doomslayer. No conveniently placed fodder demons means no ammo refills, and he'll eventually not have any weapons left.

Even if V1 gets injured, they can use the screwdriver and swoop in for easy healing, which might even outheal Doomslayer's DPS.

[Gremmer]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Errm ackually, to heal v1 has to get close, which then doomman can use the microwave beam

V1 isn't sticking to close range, they're going to be attacking from medium distance and abuse their mobility advantage over Doomslayer. What little dodging the slayer can do is countered by sticking him with magnets and then firing rockets and nails.

In a prolonged fight, ammo becomes a serious issue for Doomslayer. No conveniently placed fodder demons means no ammo refills, and he'll eventually not have any weapons left.

Even if V1 gets injured, they can use the screwdriver and swoop in for easy healing, which might even outheal Doomslayer's DPS.

V1 dies from one headshot, his armor is ♥♥♥♥

[super 9]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Slug Cat:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheCraftNCreator:

V1 isn't sticking to close range, they're going to be attacking from medium distance and abuse their mobility advantage over Doomslayer. What little dodging the slayer can do is countered by sticking him with magnets and then firing rockets and nails.

In a prolonged fight, ammo becomes a serious issue for Doomslayer. No conveniently placed fodder demons means no ammo refills, and he'll eventually not have any weapons left.

Even if V1 gets injured, they can use the screwdriver and swoop in for easy healing, which might even outheal Doomslayer's DPS.

V1 dies from one headshot, his armor is ♥♥♥♥

i dont think you have played ultrakill past the first cerberus fight tbh