Next Layers Discussion

[Ruskah]

so we're reaching the end of ultrakill yes it is very sad, hold back the tears and the last layers we've yet to see are violence, fraud, and treachery
that first layer i mentioned, the next one, violence, includes an entire part about "violence against the self", which is for people who off themselves. if hakita chooses to keep this aspect of dante's inferno, act 3 is gonna get super dark super quick, like imagine fighting a tree, thinking "that was weird", going to the terminal to check it out, and the terminal is all like "yeah these r ppl who ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game ended themselves", like fr
it also features "violence against god, art, and nature" which a) is fitting cus god is kinda selfish in this canon (literally having a pissy fit cus not everyone is exactly how he wants them to be lmao) but b) includes some. just, real horrible stuff, i aint even gonna say it, look it up if u want. i doubt hakita's gonna mention this in act 3 but still that's just kinda funny to me
also the punishments from here onwards get kinda wild, like boiling ppl in blood and sticking them in ice except for their head (chin upwards), it's gonna make for an interesting aesthetic that's for sure (if hakita actually sticks to the original story super hard, that is lol, he's taken liberties before (e.g. the wrath layer, the way demons work in general, and there being no ferryman at the start of the game like in the original story))
anyway, what do y'all think act 3 is gonna be like, or the prime soul of the act? regardless im sure hakita'll knock it out of the park like usual

also spoiler alert in fraud ur goal is to get hit by minos's car and sue him for everything he's got

[Dante ツ]

P-3's gonna be Bill Clinton Prime. And I'm willing to bet good money on that.

[chester]

I've seen a few people theorize that the violence layer is going to be like a ww1 battlefield with trenches and bunkers, which would be really cool to see.

Fraud is probably going to be very dark, maybe with some psychological horror thrown in. Kinda like 0-S but toned down.

I'm not expecting Treachery to be anything like Gluttony or Heresy in terms of tone. I wouldn't even be surprised if the opening section of 9-1 has no music or ambient noise. 6-1 felt like an action packed climax, whereas I'm expecting 9-1 to be extremely off-putting and give off a feeling of dread, rather than feeling like an epic final battle. After all, we know damn well that this game isn't going to have a happy ending.

[Silliest man alive in Argentina]

So, Having in mind all of this, remember that we are also going to have new red weapon variants for almost every weapon, aswell as a new "yellow" variant of arm. I think that at some point we are going to fight some sort of "V3" to get this arm, Perhaps we will be able to get this arm in violence, or fraud. Maybe V2 scammed this "V3" excanging arms? So, having these 2 layers, with maybe a little lore to tell, more enemies and stuff. And finally we got treachery, wich i think its gonna be one of the most messed up acts of all time, wanna know why? ---> It may be the last time we fight gabriel, as in the eding of act 2, gabriel killed the counselor (or however its spelled) the counselor has this Light, Without that light gabriel cannot reconnect, meaning that since gabriel killed the counselor, gabriel will die in a couple of hours, this means that this will be the last time we fight him, maybe kill him, or dying because of the fact he cant reconnect through the light. Thats also the main reason of why act 3 is called "Godfist suicide" There are also been some leaks of a last chapter, named finale. We might have to fight satan i guess?

[Ruskah]

Publicado originalmente por chester:

I've seen a few people theorize that the violence layer is going to be like a ww1 battlefield with trenches and bunkers, which would be really cool to see.

Fraud is probably going to be very dark, maybe with some psychological horror thrown in. Kinda like 0-S but toned down.

I'm not expecting Treachery to be anything like Gluttony or Heresy in terms of tone. I wouldn't even be surprised if the opening section of 9-1 has no music or ambient noise. 6-1 felt like an action packed climax, whereas I'm expecting 9-1 to be extremely off-putting and give off a feeling of dread, rather than feeling like an epic final battle. After all, we know damn well that this game isn't going to have a happy ending.

those r neat ideas but i think it'd make sense to swap violence and fraud, or at least have 7-2 be the 0-S thing since violence against the self is the second type of violence, and fraud was a big tunnel with pits in it, so it'd make more sense

[Defective Soul]

THERE IS NO END IN HELL
AND MEMES WILL KEEP IT ALIVE
MODDING IS ALREADY A THING

[kestrel]

my theory:
gabriel is fought and finally killed in 9-2, and V1 is able to collect his swords to use as weapons (this is the yellow arm seen in the terminal). the "finale" chapter is in fact heaven which perhaps V1 could access via gabriel somehow.
hakita named dusk as one of his favourite weapons of all time, a game which features prominent melee combat featuring swords in its third act. i have a feeling ultrakill will do something similar

[Ruskah]

Publicado originalmente por kestrel:

my theory:
gabriel is fought and finally killed in 9-2, and V1 is able to collect his swords to use as weapons (this is the yellow arm seen in the terminal). the "finale" chapter is in fact heaven which perhaps V1 could access via gabriel somehow.
hakita named dusk as one of his favourite weapons of all time, a game which features prominent melee combat featuring swords in its third act. i have a feeling ultrakill will do something similar

nah i think the game's gonna end after treachery, although ig if there was a heaven area that'd be. kinda neat
having read up on the divine comedy a bit tho (i read the wikipedia page actually) i think it'd make more sense if there was a purgatory level first, considering it's how dante gets into heaven, although if it did happen id rather it just be one level per layer, we have a lot of content already and i dont want hakita and his team to work themselves to death, maybe as dlc later down the road (so long as it's not required for the story or smthn) or a hypothetical sequel but just going from hell to heaven with no in-between seems a little silly, especially considering the story reason ur in hell in the first place (the hell expaditions, v1 looking for blood, etc)
other than just not making sense in universe, it's also not rly necessary aside from being cool/neat, which hakita does partake in doing but only on a smaller scale (e.g. punching bullets out of ur gun to make them faster and go boom) rather than story stuff, which is usually quite cohesive and tightly knit. maybe as a non-canon story but for ultrakill itself i just doubt it's happening

[Ruskah]

so i was right about the trees... kinda...