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Jaeger Pilot Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:49pm
What did they do with the mouse controls?
They are borderline unplayable. Especially for me since I play with inverted controls, like... you know... you're supposed to when flying an aircraft/spacecraft.

Instead of controlling the ship directly, it makes you control a mouse pointer, and then the ship follows the pointer. That means that if you move the pointer to the left, the ship will continue to follow the pointer and continuously turn left even if you let go of the mouse. This, to me, is completely counter intuitive. I don't use inverted controls when I move a mouse pointer around in windows, so my brain randomly switches between trying to control a ship with inverted controls, to trying to control a mouse pointer with normal controls.

Please, just let me control the ship directly, and when I hold the mouse still, the ship stops turning. It's perfectly doable to have mouse controls for a ship, you just have to do it without the mouse cursor controls. I had to plug in my controller to not go insane!
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dannyj147 Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:51pm 
Not the first person to complain about the mouse controls. Let's hope they patch it soon.
CaoLex Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Isn't this standard practice in Aerosims and Spacesims nowadays? Almost every such games that allowing mouse control use this control scheme.
King Cluck Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by CaoLex:
Isn't this standard practice in Aerosims and Spacesims nowadays? Almost every such games that allowing mouse control use this control scheme.

Negative, I play warthunder constantly and that is not true.
Last edited by King Cluck; Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:01pm
Jaeger Pilot Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by dannyj147:
Not the first person to complain about the mouse controls. Let's hope they patch it soon.

They should at least give us two options when using a mouse - the cursor controls, and direct controls (mouse stops moving, ship stops turning).

The way it is now, I have to find the mouse cursor on the screen, and then move it to the middle to stop turning. That means I can't look around at other things. I have to use my eyes to control the ship instead of letting my hand control the ship so I can use my eyes for other things, like looking at the gauges and stuff.
Jaeger Pilot Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by B33Z3L:
Originally posted by CaoLex:
Isn't this standard practice in Aerosims and Spacesims nowadays? Almost every such games that allowing mouse control use this control scheme.

Negative, I play warplanes constantly and that is not true.

So in Warplanes it's like I want it to be? Stop moving mouse = plane stops turning.
AvMAN Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:59pm 
Its because the Mouse is emulating a Joystick or Controller. Otherwise Mouse Aiming would be OP like it is in arcade games like WarThunder or the Space battles in Battlefront 2. They are going for a more Simulator experience rather then an Arcade game.

They based it off of the mid 1990's games like X-Wing and Tie Fighter that required a Joystick.
Last edited by AvMAN; Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:02pm
King Cluck Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:
Originally posted by B33Z3L:

Negative, I play warplanes constantly and that is not true.

So in Warthunder it's like I want it to be? Stop moving mouse = plane stops turning.

100% my friend, underrated flight combat game imo. I love the game.
Last edited by King Cluck; Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:01pm
Jaeger Pilot Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by AvMAN:
Its because the Mouse is emulating a Joystick or Controller. Otherwise Mouse Aiming would be OP like it is in arcade games like WarThunder or the Space battles in Battlefront 2. They are going for a more Simulator experience rather then an Arcade game.

Following a mouse pointer is more like a simulator? Is that what you're saying?
King Cluck Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by AvMAN:
Its because the Mouse is emulating a Joystick or Controller. Otherwise Mouse Aiming would be OP like it is in arcade games like WarThunder or the Space battles in Battlefront 2. They are going for a more Simulator experience rather then an Arcade game.

Sticking Simulated controls on top of Arcade gameplay is not working either obv.
MeatFruit Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:02pm 
this is correct
MeatFruit Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by AvMAN:
Its because the Mouse is emulating a Joystick or Controller. Otherwise Mouse Aiming would be OP like it is in arcade games like WarThunder or the Space battles in Battlefront 2. They are going for a more Simulator experience rather then an Arcade game.

They based it off of the mid 1990's games like X-Wing and Tie Fighter that required a Joystick.
this is correct*
Jaeger Pilot Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by B33Z3L:
Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:

So in Warthunder it's like I want it to be? Stop moving mouse = plane stops turning.

100% my friend, underrated flight combat game imo. I love the game.

I have tried it, it's just so long a go that I don't remember what the controls were like, not even if I used a mouse or controller.
AvMAN Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:
Following a mouse pointer is more like a simulator? Is that what you're saying?

No I'm saying that the way its making you move the mouse around, and if it's not centered you drift... Is emulating a joystick or controller when if its not centered the ship drifts also.
BluesyMoo Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:
Originally posted by AvMAN:
Its because the Mouse is emulating a Joystick or Controller. Otherwise Mouse Aiming would be OP like it is in arcade games like WarThunder or the Space battles in Battlefront 2. They are going for a more Simulator experience rather then an Arcade game.

Following a mouse pointer is more like a simulator? Is that what you're saying?

The scheme with WT is not at all like a simulator. It is more like pointing a finger and having the autopilot go where you pointed. You never control the plane. That's why it's easier.
Last edited by BluesyMoo; Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:04pm
Skinflowers Oct 1, 2020 @ 1:06pm 
Would be a bit of a let down if the mouse made it into a "pointing a gun with a ship attached" rather than "flying a ship with a gun attached"
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Date Posted: Oct 1, 2020 @ 12:49pm
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