GTA 4 FIX!!!!!

[Mr. Saturn]

To start we need to remove any programs that use, conflict or depend on the GFWL system or services so un-install:

* the Microsoft Games for Windows - LIVE redistributable and Marketplace

* the Bing bar

* Windows Live Essentials (including Windows Live Messenger)

* Microsoft Silverlight

* the Windows Live ID sign-in assistant (this may be missing from the add/remove programs list)

* any Microsoft .NET frameworks
Then restart your computer.



Next we need to re-install everything in order.

1st - Install Microsoft .NET framework depending on your version of windows.
Windows 7 - .NET 4.0: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=24872 Windows 7 should only need 4.0 and this should install client profile
Windows XP or Vista - .NET 3.5: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=21 after it installs you should also install
- .NET 4.0 Client Profile http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=24872
After it installs, run windows update to update your computer with any important updates. Then restart your computer and run windows update again.


2nd - Install the Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=15106

3rd - Install Microsoft Silverlight: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=149156

4th - Install the Games for Windows Marketplace: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=201134
After this installs, try to sign into the Marketplace client and see if it gives you an error. If it does give you a message, stop and post the error message. and we will work from there. If you can sign into the marketplace client go ahead and;


If you are able to sign into the game then we can reinstall everything like the Windows Live Essentials: http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe??WLI=1

XBOX Thread http://forums.xbox.com/gfw/technical_support/f/253/t/274625.aspx

[Razorbak86]

If you're going to copy and paste a "FIX" from someone else's thread, you really shouldn't leave out the very important opening paragraphs below...

This thread gives instructions on un-installing and re-installing the components related to Games for Windows Live on your computer. You should try these steps if:

- You try to start the Games for Windows Marketplace and it immediately crashes (especially if it gives you a message about it crashing)

- If it closes without giving you any messages at all AND you cannot sign into any Games for Windows Live games

- If you cannot access the Games for Windows Live overlay from in game (pressing the Home key does nothing)

Those are the three most common reasons that may mean there is an issue with one of the programs or services that the Marketplace or the Client depends on. If You are not able to start the marketplace or the service it may be that one of those programs was not installed correctly or that a older version might be installed.

This should only be done if NOTHING else you've tried has worked.

So here is a quick guide to un-installing and re-installing the required programs.

That thread is only intended to address Games for Windows - LIVE problems. It is not specific to GTA IV, and it will not address problems with GTA IV that are not related to GFWL.

Without those opening paragraphs qualifying the nature and scopy of the advice, somebody on this forum might unwittingly do a lot of unnecessary work on (& potential damage to) their computer without knowing that the recommended procedure doesn't even apply to their specific problems.