I allowed cloud saving but now I can't turn it off :(

[Cliff.uckingBooth]

I tried search Rockstar Social but havent found anything about cloud saving, neither in Steam options. Please help.

[Yujah]

If you with the game and launcher closed delete your Windows user's Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\Profiles\<some rgsc id>\cloudsavedata.dat the game (well, launcher) will on the next start reask.

Even if you pick "no" that'll not delete the saves you've already uploaded to the Rockstar cloud though, and IIRC you'd get a cloud save conflict dialog every startup. To in fact delete your current saves from the Rockstar cloud you can use "the Steam cloud save trick" of uploading 0-byte large files. I.e.,

1. Close game and launcher (with Rockstar cloud saves still active).
2. Optionally copy or move to safety any SGTA4xx savegame in Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\Profiles\<some rgsc id>\ you want to keep.
3. Replace all SGTA4xx savegames in Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\Profiles\<some rgsc id>\ with 0-byte files: from a CMD-prompt open in that directory, "copy con SGTA401", <enter>, choose to overwrite, <F6>, and again for the other SGTA4xx files in there. Verify with "dir" or the file explorer that indeed they are now 0-byte files.
4. Start the game and on the cloud sync conflict dialogue choose to upload your local files.
5. Exit game and launcher, delete your just created 0-byte SGTA4xx files and the mentioned cloudsavedata.dat file.
6. Optionally copy or move back the in step 2 kept safe savegames.
7. Start game and chose to not use the Rockstar cloud.

Why this stupidly opaque management of savegames by uploading 0-byte files? Ask Rockstar. Or Steam, which does the exact same. Also note the "IIRC" though; if I remember IN-correctly that you then still each time get the cloud sync conflict dialog you may not care about your already uploaded saves and can just keep it at the deletion of cloudsavedata.dat.

[Cliff.uckingBooth]

Why the f*uck I can't just simply uncheck the box that would say cloud saving is beyond me... If I knew what problems this makes I would never choose the cloud saving :( But thanks for the info.

[Yujah]

Originally posted by Cliff.uckingBooth:

Why the f*uck I can't just simply uncheck the box that would say cloud saving is beyond me...

All I'll note is that not having that checkbox has the effect of more forcefully roping you into Rockstar's infrastructure...

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by Yujah:

Originally posted by Cliff.uckingBooth:

Why the f*uck I can't just simply uncheck the box that would say cloud saving is beyond me...

All I'll note is that not having that checkbox has the effect of more forcefully roping you into Rockstar's infrastructure...

But you can though. When you're in game and press the home key you open the rockstar games launcher overlay. In the settings you can enable or disable cloud saves.

[Yujah]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

In the settings you can enable or disable cloud saves.

Maybe you can, but certainly I can not. In GTA IV, from the Rockstar overlay, Settings I have two categories available:

- "Profile", with options "Auto sign in", "Hide notifications" and "Other Settings" (a link to Social Club settings on the web, which doesn't have anything relevant)
- "Game Settings", which is other than for the text "No Settings are currently available" fully empty.

Has never been different for me either, although when I googled this back when I in fact played the game a few months ago I found the information saying that it used to be available from there (although I believe in the context of GTA 5 instead). I.e., if you were replying not just from memory, I expect you may want to allow GTA IV to update.

[Cliff.uckingBooth]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

Originally posted by Yujah:

All I'll note is that not having that checkbox has the effect of more forcefully roping you into Rockstar's infrastructure...

But you can though. When you're in game and press the home key you open the rockstar games launcher overlay. In the settings you can enable or disable cloud saves.

No you can't and I would have been really surprised if you can. There is no such option in Rockstar overlay. I checked 3 times already. I have it exactly like Yujah said.

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by Cliff.uckingBooth:

Originally posted by Fenrir:

But you can though. When you're in game and press the home key you open the rockstar games launcher overlay. In the settings you can enable or disable cloud saves.

No you can't and I would have been really surprised if you can. There is no such option in Rockstar overlay. I checked 3 times already. I have it exactly like Yujah said.

https://imgur.com/a/Ah1IFDX

Don't really know what to tell you

[Cliff.uckingBooth]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

Originally posted by Cliff.uckingBooth:

No you can't and I would have been really surprised if you can. There is no such option in Rockstar overlay. I checked 3 times already. I have it exactly like Yujah said.

https://imgur.com/a/Ah1IFDX

Don't really know what to tell you

Me neither. I don't have this option anywhere. Anyway I already fixed this by uninstalling the game, then manually deleting the files in documents directory and now after I installed the game again it asked if I want to use the cloud, so I chose no and thats it. Problem fixed ;)

[Yujah]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

Don't really know what to tell you

And that's on a fully up to date Rockstar Games Launcher and Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition? If yes: neither do I; certainly don't have that option...

[Nik2Fast]

Can someone help me my game gets stuck on the black screen in the beginning of the game i have 70 minutes played and i haven't walked in the game once.

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by Yujah:

Originally posted by Fenrir:

Don't really know what to tell you

And that's on a fully up to date Rockstar Games Launcher and Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition? If yes: neither do I; certainly don't have that option...

Yes, actually a complete fresh OS install from a week ago.

[Yujah]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

Originally posted by Yujah:

And that's on a fully up to date Rockstar Games Launcher and Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition? [ ... ]

Yes, actually a complete fresh OS install from a week ago.

Thanks for confirming, good to know --- even though I'd then have no idea why some are and some aren't seeing that option provided.

Someone else able to confirm or deny the "Cloud Saves" option to be present/absent from the Rockstar overlay (that you get with the <Home> key while in game, "Game Settings" tab) while playing a current GTA IV: The Complete Edition? And on what OS? A current Windows 10?