Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition

Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition

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Jericho Jun 21, 2022 @ 11:54am
The Mission "Paper Trail" is impossible
I am trying the follow the heli but it doesn't matter how I go at it. I literally fly directly towards the chopper but he just moves way too fast and gets away every time right from the start of the mission.

And Yes I am aware of the 8, 4, 6, 2 numpad controls. It doesn't matter. The handling of these things is not suitable for flying between buildings without a controller which makes it impossible to follow them.


EDIT: Okay so I beat the mission but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was annoying I swear to god I never want to fly another heli in this game or I will have an aneurysm.
Last edited by Jericho; Jun 21, 2022 @ 12:09pm
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mr.devolver Jun 21, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Jericho:
I am trying the follow the heli but it doesn't matter how I go at it. I literally fly directly towards the chopper but he just moves way too fast and gets away every time right from the start of the mission.

And Yes I am aware of the 8, 4, 6, 2 numpad controls. It doesn't matter. The handling of these things is not suitable for flying between buildings without a controller which makes it impossible to follow them.


EDIT: Okay so I beat the mission but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was annoying I swear to god I never want to fly another heli in this game or I will have an aneurysm.

I was on the same boat (or should I say chopper ? lol). After many failed attempts I got fed up with that bullsh... and just cheated by teleporting to keep up, I waited until the chopper got to the open air above water, I quickly teleported to the nearest land and quickly ascended high enough for Jackob to be able to target it and then I just followed. Yeah, this mission is probably not impossible without cheating, but it's certainly very unforgiving. Add the stupid checkpoint system for mission retry which would be the same as if you never played the mission before, you must start from scratch, through all of the cutscenes again and again. Sure, you can skip the cutscene, but it takes a while to trigger anyway and seeing the same pieces of cutscenes again and again just adds to the frustration level which is already unbearable after many failed attempts. This is the kind of situation where you just tell yourself screw this bullsh.. and resort to cheating, if you consider your real life time and energy valuable at all.
Jericho Jun 21, 2022 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by mr.devolver 🅅:
Originally posted by Jericho:
I am trying the follow the heli but it doesn't matter how I go at it. I literally fly directly towards the chopper but he just moves way too fast and gets away every time right from the start of the mission.

And Yes I am aware of the 8, 4, 6, 2 numpad controls. It doesn't matter. The handling of these things is not suitable for flying between buildings without a controller which makes it impossible to follow them.


EDIT: Okay so I beat the mission but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was annoying I swear to god I never want to fly another heli in this game or I will have an aneurysm.

I was on the same boat (or should I say chopper ? lol). After many failed attempts I got fed up with that bullsh... and just cheated by teleporting to keep up, I waited until the chopper got to the open air above water, I quickly teleported to the nearest land and quickly ascended high enough for Jackob to be able to target it and then I just followed. Yeah, this mission is probably not impossible without cheating, but it's certainly very unforgiving. Add the stupid checkpoint system for mission retry which would be the same as if you never played the mission before, you must start from scratch, through all of the cutscenes again and again. Sure, you can skip the cutscene, but it takes a while to trigger anyway and seeing the same pieces of cutscenes again and again just adds to the frustration level which is already unbearable after many failed attempts. This is the kind of situation where you just tell yourself screw this bullsh.. and resort to cheating, if you consider your real life time and energy valuable at all.
I have done that a number of times.
TickleVictim Jun 21, 2022 @ 8:57pm 
That mission was piss easy
Mersh Jun 21, 2022 @ 10:12pm 
I diagnose you with the critical skill issue
Last edited by Mersh; Jun 21, 2022 @ 10:12pm
Jericho Jun 21, 2022 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Mersh:
I diagnose you with the critical skill issue
Ah yes, the answer for everything. Bad controls? Nonsense, it's not like Rockstar is infamous for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up their PC ports and making them janky. Clearly it's 100% a skill issue and has nothing to do with the controls.
Jericho Jun 21, 2022 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by Subject Delta:
That mission was piss easy
Did you use a controller?
Mersh Jun 22, 2022 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by Jericho:
Originally posted by Mersh:
I diagnose you with the critical skill issue
Ah yes, the answer for everything. Bad controls? Nonsense, it's not like Rockstar is infamous for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up their PC ports and making them janky. Clearly it's 100% a skill issue and has nothing to do with the controls.
Lol, controls for helicopter(and in the game in general) are fine, I don't even remember failing or having problems with this mission once(I play with the keyboard)



get skill bro
Last edited by Mersh; Jun 22, 2022 @ 1:31am
B Dawg Jun 22, 2022 @ 3:09am 
Git gud, helicopters are fine with Keyboard.
Mersh Jun 22, 2022 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by B Dawg:
Git gud, helicopters are fine with Keyboard.
Based
Jericho Jun 22, 2022 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by Mersh:
Originally posted by B Dawg:
Git gud, helicopters are fine with Keyboard.
Based
About as fine as a car that burns oil.
DescipleOfZen Jun 23, 2022 @ 1:02am 
I'm sorry but I don't really understand the problem? I've finished this mission easily.
B Dawg Jun 23, 2022 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Lazerdisq:
I'm sorry but I don't really understand the problem? I've finished this mission easily.
Dunno, some people have super slow hands or brains something, no idea.
Last edited by B Dawg; Jun 23, 2022 @ 7:52am
Jericho Jun 23, 2022 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by B Dawg:
Originally posted by Lazerdisq:
I'm sorry but I don't really understand the problem? I've finished this mission easily.
Dunno, some people have super slow hands or brains something, no idea.
Some people are found mysteriously dead.
If it's any use to you, I changed the controls for the helis as follows:

Throttle Up: W
Throttle Down: S
Pitch Forward: Left Shift
Pitch Back: Left Ctrl
Bank Left: A
Bank Right: D
Rotate Left: B
Rotate Right: N

Made it a lot easier for me than with the numpad config.


Nonetheless I'm curious what exactly caused your problem of not being able to keep up with the other heli in this mission. I never had any problems with the helis in this game.
For sharper turns you "just" need to use Bank, Rotate and Pitch simultaneously sometimes.
Last edited by Kavelir カヴリル; Jun 25, 2022 @ 12:38pm
Jericho Jun 25, 2022 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Kavelir:
It it's any use to you, I changed the controls for the helis as follows:

Throttle Up: W
Throttle Down: S
Pitch Forward: Left Shift
Pitch Back: Left Ctrl
Bank Left: A
Bank Right: D
Rotate Left: B
Rotate Right: N

Made it a lot easier for me than with the numpad config.


Nonetheless I'm curious what exactly caused your problem of not being able to keep up with the other heli in this mission. I never had any problems with the helis in this game.
For sharper turns you "just" need to use Bank, Rotate and Pitch simultaneously sometimes.
Because I would go too high up which caused me to be far away it was also twilight so it was too dark to see their heli but too bright to see the lights on it.
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Date Posted: Jun 21, 2022 @ 11:54am
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