anyone get a non social club update?

[ProperCharva]

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[June 11, 2024] - Miscellaneous

Fixed an issue that resulted in the game not starting when trying to launch it from Steam if the Rockstar Games Launcher is not installed

[Yujah]

Yep: https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/14009960/

Nope, no idea what it does or why.

[Esteban]

GTA IV MULTIPLAYER COME BACK

[Yujah]

Do have an idea that it doesn't do that: nope. The "title.rgl" and only a 2K PlayGTAIV.exe difference undoubtedly says it's still only RGL-related, even if now game-sides.

[ant]

what a cool patch

[ProperCharva]

Originally posted by ant #FixTF2:

what a cool patch

be grateful that they still support such an old game

[Yujah]

"support"

[ProperCharva]

Originally posted by Yujah:

"support"

what more do you want lol

[Yujah]

Well, quite a bit actually. Would quite like them to remove that third-party launcher I never agreed to when I bought the game again for one -- but failing that, a native frame-limiter at minimum and most of FusionFix' fixes "at better" would be quite good for the game as such.

At the moment Rockstar are not supporting the game but themselves: the RGL is a thing for GTA4 only so they could keep selling it once Microsoft pulled the plug on new GFWL keys, and updates are just it or related to just it. The game itself still has all the issues it ever had -- except of course any concerning a fair few music tracks and all of multiplayer...

[ProperCharva]

The game is 15 years old there not gonna waste time and money on it I wish they didn't scrap multiplayer but it is what it is. Whats your problem with the rockstar launcher I never had any issues with it?

[Mister Magik]

Originally posted by ProperCharva:

The game is 15 years old there not gonna waste time and money on it I wish they didn't scrap multiplayer but it is what it is. Whats your problem with the rockstar launcher I never had any issues with it?

bruh.

[ProperCharva]

?

[Yujah]

Originally posted by ProperCharva:

Whats your problem with the rockstar launcher I never had any issues with it?

In a practical sense I have one or two times had it fail to contact "Rockstar Game Services" hence fail to start the game, but admittedly it's not up to now been a huge deal practically speaking for me either, at least since offline mode more or less works.

A single player game (which ironically GTA4 is exclusively exactly since they added their own launcher as well) should simply not have to call home in the first place though. I.e., for at least a year after the RGL was introduced offline play of GTA4 didn't work at all due to the RGL and while it currently mostly does, it's only insofar that it has gone from forced always-on to "recently-on" with any definition of "recently" that Rockstar in its all-knowing wisdom & kindness decides upon any given day.

And/or as long as some Rockstar employee half-way across the world hasn't tripped over a cable in a server room, of course. It should just not be a thing. There's a reason you will not find e.g. Ubisoft and EA titles (that use their launchers) in my Steam library: before the RGL I did not have any games using third-party launchers/accounts very much by design and I'm quite pissed that Rockstar in that sense unilaterally changed the contract I entered into with them when I bough GTA4 and L.A. Noire long, long ago.

Well. I bought them for probably at most €5 each so I'm actually only "sort of somewhat pissed maybe" rather than "quiite pissed" but that's then also the thing: I'm pretty sure I'd quite enjoy RDR2, say, but no way in effing hell am I going to spend more than a bit of throw-away pocket change on anything some commercial third-party rather than I myself have control over.

[TTVChosenRodent]

seriously though what was the update today

[ProperCharva]

Originally posted by Tyguy:

seriously though what was the update today

read the top of the post

[Yujah]

Originally posted by Tyguy:

seriously though what was the update today

And here I was being all serious and ♥♥♥♥...

ProperCharva edited the OP ;)