GTA V police vs GTA IV police?

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

I wonder what people think. How a new game, GTA V, competes with an older title, GTA IV.

[festizio]

no vigilante in 5, 4 is better

[LordChaos]

Hate 5's police system. They instantly know when you commit a crime and will know where you are hiding. I miss 4's police system, it makes the sandbox a lot more fun. I can stab like 3 people then the police is called.

[VB Driver]

Animals
Calling cops on you
When you shot from sniper into empty space
With suppressor
In the deep forest
In the middle of the night

And then you spend 5 IRL minutes escaping 1 star level

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by LordChaos:

Hate 5's police system. They instantly know when you commit a crime and will know where you are hiding. I miss 4's police system, it makes the sandbox a lot more fun. I can stab like 3 people then the police is called.

Well it makes sense. New phones have the emergency call.
But I agree. GTA 4 police system was ahead of its time, but also had alot of bugs.
For example, GTA 4 if you switch cars the police actually have to search for you. Unlike GTA 5 where they know where you are just acting like they don't.

I know I might get alot of hate for saying this. But I also just GTA 4 driving system. GTA 4, when you get in a car crash, it feels like a car crash. Unlike GTA 5 where it is just a little dent after going over 100mph into another car.

Also I love GTA 4 NOOSE. GTA 5 really just ruined it, it is there, yes. But GTA 5 NOOSE is basically better police.

Originally posted by VB✠Driver:

Animals
Calling cops on you
When you shot from sniper into empty space
With suppressor
In the deep forest
In the middle of the night

And then you spend 5 IRL minutes escaping 1 star level

Makes no sense. I still don't even know how to get stealth kills in GTA 5, I still have 0 stealth kills in my 700-800 hours.

[B Dawg]

V's police system is arguably the worst in the series. The only thing it has over the 3D era games is that cops don't spawn out of thin air near you, but other than that, it's worse in every other way somehow.
- Nightsticks don't return so no melee combat with cops like 3D era;
- Police patrols don't exist in the open world when you don't have a wanted level (unless you are close to a police station);
- Despite the above, it's incredibly easy to get wanted levels and it takes too long to lose a single star (because afaik the time to lose the police is the same regardless of how many stars you have);
- The best way to lose the police is the most boring way, like standing still in a bush for a minute or two;
- Difficulty is extremely artificial: Supercars/High Top Speed is useless because cops have rubberbanding, game is programmed to auto steer your car when rammed or when your wheels are shot, cops can pit you but they decided to make it so they only do that at very low speeds and stupidly ram you otherwise. They also gave them the ability to pit heavy vehicles because they artificially increase the cop car's mass & or traction;
- Police will never arrest anyone, everyone will always be shot dead outside of scripted sequences;
- Downgraded police variety and vehicle use: IV has the FIB at high wanted levels, V does not, IV uses all of the police vehicles outside of missions (minus Police Stockade which is just a reskin of the NOOSE Stockade/Enforcer), V does not (Riot Van/Police Transporter only used in Roadblocks, Police Buffalo/Cruiser only being scripted map spawns, Annihilator is unused, etc...)
Etc... etc...

Skip to 17:08
https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28?t=1028

[Those Who Dig]

Originally posted by B Dawg:

V's police system is arguably the worst in the series. The only thing it has over the 3D era games is that cops don't spawn out of thin air near you, but other than that, it's worse in every other way somehow.
- Nightsticks don't return so no melee combat with cops like 3D era;
- Police patrols don't exist in the open world when you don't have a wanted level (unless you are close to a police station);
- Despite the above, it's incredibly easy to get wanted levels and it takes too long to lose a single star (because afaik the time to lose the police is the same regardless of how many stars you have);
- The best way to lose the police is the most boring way, like standing still in a bush for a minute or two;
- Difficulty is extremely artificial: Supercars/High Top Speed is useless because cops have rubberbanding, game is programmed to auto steer your car when rammed or when your wheels are shot, cops can pit you but they decided to make it so they only do that at very low speeds and stupidly ram you otherwise. They also gave them the ability to pit heavy vehicles because they artificially increase the cop car's mass & or traction;
- Police will never arrest anyone, everyone will always be shot dead outside of scripted sequences;
- Downgraded police variety and vehicle use: IV has the FIB at high wanted levels, V does not, IV uses all of the police vehicles outside of missions (minus Police Stockade which is just a reskin of the NOOSE Stockade/Enforcer), V does not (Riot Van/Police Transporter only used in Roadblocks, Police Buffalo/Cruiser only being scripted map spawns, Annihilator is unused, etc...)
Etc... etc...
https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28?t=1028

Very informative - I knew there was something I didn't quite like about GTA V's police system, and you articulated it excellently.

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by B Dawg:

V's police system is arguably the worst in the series. The only thing it has over the 3D era games is that cops don't spawn out of thin air near you, but other than that, it's worse in every other way somehow.
- Nightsticks don't return so no melee combat with cops like 3D era;
- Police patrols don't exist in the open world when you don't have a wanted level (unless you are close to a police station);
- Despite the above, it's incredibly easy to get wanted levels and it takes too long to lose a single star (because afaik the time to lose the police is the same regardless of how many stars you have);
- The best way to lose the police is the most boring way, like standing still in a bush for a minute or two;
- Difficulty is extremely artificial: Supercars/High Top Speed is useless because cops have rubberbanding, game is programmed to auto steer your car when rammed or when your wheels are shot, cops can pit you but they decided to make it so they only do that at very low speeds and stupidly ram you otherwise. They also gave them the ability to pit heavy vehicles because they artificially increase the cop car's mass & or traction;
- Police will never arrest anyone, everyone will always be shot dead outside of scripted sequences;
- Downgraded police variety and vehicle use: IV has the FIB at high wanted levels, V does not, IV uses all of the police vehicles outside of missions (minus Police Stockade which is just a reskin of the NOOSE Stockade/Enforcer), V does not (Riot Van/Police Transporter only used in Roadblocks, Police Buffalo/Cruiser only being scripted map spawns, Annihilator is unused, etc...)
Etc... etc...
https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28?t=1028

After reading (the first 3) this. I know I will never actually get myself to atleast like V's police. Thank you for helping.

Jokes aside, I see many helicopters spawn out of thin air infront of me and sometimes police (and random peds). So that is still there. Where as GTA 4 did not have that much,

[Chuckolias Chucktholomue]

i like the cops in 4. sometimes they corner you, making the run last an extra 5 mins but it feels realistic in some way. Like gta 5 was all about getting out of their cones cus those cops checked every inch of pavement but in 4 they will drive by unassuming alley ways.

With this being said I really feel like the cops were nerfed in TLAD. Plenty of plenty of times 1 2 stars would only spawn one cop the entire chase. IDK if i ever got more than 2 stars because they were so easy to.... not even manuver just mutually forgot about eachother ig

[Real Donald J. Trump]

IV's is light-years ahead and I don't even need an explanation!

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by punk:

IV's is light-years ahead and I don't even need an explanation!

I also think 4's community is light-years ahead from being toxic. Maybe i have not been around long enough, but the community is no-where as toxic as GTA 5, especially for female gamers.

[Chuckolias Chucktholomue]

Originally posted by United Nation's Peacekeeper:

Originally posted by punk:

IV's is light-years ahead and I don't even need an explanation!

I also think 4's community is light-years ahead from being toxic. Maybe i have not been around long enough, but the community is no-where as toxic as GTA 5, especially for female gamers.

IDK man, I made a discussion here about how TLAD has some map discrepancies from the rest, and the only answer I got was "FOOK OFF AND ACCEPT ITS A GAME" not like I was talking trash, just exploring lore ideas.

[~WiFiEmoGirl~]

Originally posted by Tony Bologna:

Originally posted by United Nation's Peacekeeper:

I also think 4's community is light-years ahead from being toxic. Maybe i have not been around long enough, but the community is no-where as toxic as GTA 5, especially for female gamers.

IDK man, I made a discussion here about how TLAD has some map discrepancies from the rest, and the only answer I got was "FOOK OFF AND ACCEPT ITS A GAME" not like I was talking trash, just exploring lore ideas.

Hey, you get that everywhere in GTA 5.
Don't forget, you always get called "♥♥♥♥♥" "♥♥♥♥♥" "choke on your blood" so on in GTA 5.

[Kweeb]

https://imgur.com/gallery/JgwLWms
GTA 5 file that controls populations. the percent of cop pedestrians is set to 0. On GTA 4 it is also set to 0.

[Kweeb]

I put the cop percent to 3

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by United Nation's Peacekeeper:

Originally posted by LordChaos:

Hate 5's police system. They instantly know when you commit a crime and will know where you are hiding. I miss 4's police system, it makes the sandbox a lot more fun. I can stab like 3 people then the police is called.

Well it makes sense. New phones have the emergency call.
But I agree. GTA 4 police system was ahead of its time, but also had alot of bugs.
For example, GTA 4 if you switch cars the police actually have to search for you. Unlike GTA 5 where they know where you are just acting like they don't.

I know I might get alot of hate for saying this. But I also just GTA 4 driving system. GTA 4, when you get in a car crash, it feels like a car crash. Unlike GTA 5 where it is just a little dent after going over 100mph into another car.

Also I love GTA 4 NOOSE. GTA 5 really just ruined it, it is there, yes. But GTA 5 NOOSE is basically better police.

Originally posted by VB✠Driver:

Animals
Calling cops on you
When you shot from sniper into empty space
With suppressor
In the deep forest
In the middle of the night

And then you spend 5 IRL minutes escaping 1 star level

Makes no sense. I still don't even know how to get stealth kills in GTA 5, I still have 0 stealth kills in my 700-800 hours.

I get that everyone has phones in GTA 5 (and apparently animals too). But its way too instant. Sometimes an NPC can call the police as you are doing a crime, but most of the time I dont see it happen or the police is instantly called after punching one guy