Did they cut out all the DLC radio stations?!

[Incarnate]

I just noticed that the same exact songs from GTA IV vanilla game were on the Lost and Damned Radio. And they literally ported all the same stations and removed the ones that are supposed to be there.

So, besides cutting out a bunch of radio stations that they mentioned (RamJam, Vice City FM, and Self Actualization) they then went the extra mile and cut out the other radio stations and didn't even bother to tell us?

[Ceb]

I hear they were merged or something.

[LOL ✡️ HARVARD]

the stations are temporarily removed, not permanently. they are supporting a decade old game, chill.

[Incarnate]

Originally posted by Guy Ramsay Fieri:

the stations are temporarily removed, not permanently. they are supporting a decade old game, chill.

Based on Rockstar's track record, "support" usually means they are about to **** up a game. Their handling of this game on PC has been one horrible decision after another.

They never fixed anything broken with this game, they just found new ways to screw with it and break new parts for no reason. Why would I give them benefit of the doubt now?

[Chris J]

Originally posted by Incarnate:

Originally posted by Guy Ramsay Fieri:

the stations are temporarily removed, not permanently. they are supporting a decade old game, chill.

Based on Rockstar's track record, "support" usually means they are about to **** up a game. Their handling of this game on PC has been one horrible decision after another.

They never fixed anything broken with this game, they just found new ways to screw with it and break new parts for no reason. Why would I give them benefit of the doubt now?

this game isnt broken. its your PC it must be awful if it cant run an old game like this lol

[Ceb]

Originally posted by Z3RO:

Originally posted by Incarnate:

Based on Rockstar's track record, "support" usually means they are about to **** up a game. Their handling of this game on PC has been one horrible decision after another.

They never fixed anything broken with this game, they just found new ways to screw with it and break new parts for no reason. Why would I give them benefit of the doubt now?

this game isnt broken. its your PC it must be awful if it cant run an old game like this lol

The PC version of this game is literally known for having a not-so-good port. It could be their PC, sure. But a more likely answer is poor optimization.

[Chris J]

Originally posted by StandardGuy:

Originally posted by Z3RO:

this game isnt broken. its your PC it must be awful if it cant run an old game like this lol

The PC version of this game is literally known for having a not-so-good port. It could be their PC, sure. But a more likely answer is poor optimization.

where is the "Poor Optimization" im running this game in 4K max settings at smooth 60fps. no crashes no stuttering no vram problems. this game is very well optimized

[Ceb]

Originally posted by Z3RO:

Originally posted by StandardGuy:

The PC version of this game is literally known for having a not-so-good port. It could be their PC, sure. But a more likely answer is poor optimization.

where is the "Poor Optimization" im running this game in 4K max settings at smooth 60fps. no crashes no stuttering no vram problems. this game is very well optimized

"I'm having no issues therefore anyone who is having issues with this product is WRONG!"

That's your logic.

[Incarnate]

Originally posted by Z3RO:

Originally posted by Incarnate:

Based on Rockstar's track record, "support" usually means they are about to **** up a game. Their handling of this game on PC has been one horrible decision after another.

They never fixed anything broken with this game, they just found new ways to screw with it and break new parts for no reason. Why would I give them benefit of the doubt now?

this game isnt broken. its your PC it must be awful if it cant run an old game like this lol

GTA V runs smoother than this game. Pull your head out of your a**, you Rockstar fanboy.

[Hmmmm Nice Bike ツ]

How many of the original Vladivostok FM songs are even in the game still?

[CheekyChan]

Originally posted by Z3RO:

Originally posted by StandardGuy:

The PC version of this game is literally known for having a not-so-good port. It could be their PC, sure. But a more likely answer is poor optimization.

where is the "Poor Optimization" im running this game in 4K max settings at smooth 60fps. no crashes no stuttering no vram problems. this game is very well optimized

4K 60FPS huh? This is an old game bro, your PC must be trash if it's not running it at 240FPS at 4K maxed bruh because this game is ezpz on resources and a perfect port bruh, your PC is defo trash bruh, get a better PC bruh.

See how that can be annoying?

GTA IV and Saints Row 2 are known to be two of the worst PC ports of all time. Most people will have a better experience playing this on their Xbox One X with BC because the Xbox port was the most stable version of the game, not to mention all the music and everything is still there and not patched out.

This game is just known for having bad compatibility with different setups, if it works fine for you, great, but it's well known that it doesn't work very well for a lot of people even with rigs more powerful than yours.

If you're not capping the FPS yourself or using Vsync on a 60Hz monitor, if the game was well optimized it would be running much higher than 60FPS anyways as it allows for uncapped FPS.

If your PC can't run it faster than 60FPS even at 4K then the game is not running very optimized and you must not be able to see stutter either because nearly all setups stutter even if it tells you there's a solid 60FPS, Vsync helps but won't fix it completely.

[Incarnate]

Originally posted by CheekyChan:

Originally posted by Z3RO:

where is the "Poor Optimization" im running this game in 4K max settings at smooth 60fps. no crashes no stuttering no vram problems. this game is very well optimized

4K 60FPS huh? This is an old game bro, your PC must be trash if it's not running it at 240FPS at 4K maxed bruh because this game is ezpz on resources and a perfect port bruh, your PC is defo trash bruh, get a better PC bruh.

See how that can be annoying?

GTA IV and Saints Row 2 are known to be two of the worst PC ports of all time. Most people will have a better experience playing this on their Xbox One X with BC because the Xbox port was the most stable version of the game, not to mention all the music and everything is still there and not patched out.

This game is just known for having bad compatibility with different setups, if it works fine for you, great, but it's well known that it doesn't work very well for a lot of people even with rigs more powerful than yours.

If you're not capping the FPS yourself or using Vsync on a 60Hz monitor, if the game was well optimized it would be running much higher than 60FPS anyways as it allows for uncapped FPS.

If your PC can't run it faster than 60FPS even at 4K then the game is not running very optimized and you must not be able to see stutter either because nearly all setups stutter even if it tells you there's a solid 60FPS, Vsync helps but won't fix it completely.

Don't waste your time on this guy. If he wants to ignore a decade of forum posts commenting on GTA IV's poor optimization and the horrible GFWL stuff, let him fellate Rockstar. You can't win with these people.

I just wanted to know if anyone knew how much of this game they were planning to disembowel this go around.

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Originally posted by StandardGuy:

I hear they were merged or something.

I hear some songs from Ballad of Gay Tony in the standard Valdivostok FM, it's like sometimes playing russian music and sometimes the club music :)

[Incarnate]

Originally posted by ¡222:

Originally posted by StandardGuy:

I hear they were merged or something.

I hear some songs from Ballad of Gay Tony in the standard Valdivostok FM, it's like sometimes playing russian music and sometimes the club music :)

Yup, it appears they tossed everything together arbitrarily. I guess it saves space on your hard drive or takes less time to download since it's one single music file (?) I have no clue.

[ShaDoW]

Originally posted by Guy Ramsay Fieri:

they are supporting a decade old game, chill.

No they aren't. They are stripping a game of its feature just to be able to still sell it without paying to renew its music licenses not to mention the fact that they removed mp in this new version instead of porting it to steamworks platform.

[BlankDiplomacy]

It was always like this on consoles if you bought the episodes separately. By the way has someone tried to use an old radio downgrader?

Edit: Old radio downgrader did work but didn't add episodes exclusive radio station(s) when copy-pasting files from standalone EFLC version. Also it did bug out all languages excluding Japanese and Russian, most likely due to language text files. I shall try to launch the game without those latter. Waiting for a new downgrader.