DLCs

[truxtonet]

I am still pretty surprised that they are not in hot water for labeling major updates that should be part of the game as "DLCs". If only Terraria locked the Crimson biome behind five dollars, wouldn't that have been nice? Or fight the moonlord for another 4.99. This is literally predatory, I don't see how this benefits the customer in any way.
Sure, I could suck it up and buy them easily, but why would I feed into that predatory scheme? And why have you guys done so?

[soppyamoeba8402]

A reminder: there's NO DLC'S ON THE CONSOLE VERSION

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Don't lower the bar of predatory marketing. You are not nearly as vulnerable as you pose to be in this transaction.

Also, since when dev last visited this sub anyway? Who is the audience of your post, fellow consumers? Seems the opinion isn't well received and the chatty floors didn't help much either.

I didn't buy DLC at all for 4 years, because why would I feed into the scheme?

I don't even have to tell devs, because they could see exactly how many people played nighmare, how many bought DLCs. Those data are just in plain sight.

[Knee]

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Първоначално публикувано от 931numbers:

Good idea. They should totally make made the next DLC also be required for any new acts, enemies, scrolls, game modes and other stuff that you would've otherwise gotten for free.

Now the DLC is an actual expansion instead of trickled down preorder content, and the people who don't buy it no longer suffer the pain of only getting some things for free and being teased with the rest. Win-win!

The way the DLCs are described is very poor, it made me think that the biomes were locked behind money. It's still a bad model, it feels like a forced donation.

Forced donation is an oxymoron

[truxtonet]

Първоначално публикувано от Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉:

Don't lower the bar of predatory marketing. You are not nearly as vulnerable as you pose to be in this transaction.

Also, since when dev last visited this sub anyway? Who is the audience of your post, fellow consumers? Seems the opinion isn't well received and the chatty floors didn't help much either.

I didn't buy DLC at all for 4 years, because why would I feed into the scheme?

I don't even have to tell devs, because they could see exactly how many people played nighmare, how many bought DLCs. Those data are just in plain sight.

No discounts for owners, no sales, no discounted bundling, it has stayed at 6.99 each this whole time. You cannot tell me that's not done on purpose to permanently gate some content away from poor people that worked hard to buy the game. I was so poor but I still supported and 3 DLCs tagged at 6.99 is disrespect straight to my face as an early supporter, what's the point of early access if those who participate get screwed over? But it's me right, I have bait opinions, crappy opinions, poorly formatted. I'm just yapping with no substance. And if you come tell me they took like 70 cents off, that's simply them doing you a favor at checkout to minimize the taxes. You are still paying the same price you were before. I looked at the data and they took off 70 cents on both dlcs and 1 dollar off the oldest. All of this in 3 years. I've been waiting that whole time for them to be affordable because I would rather support an indie studio for example Bronana instead of spending 6.99 for such a ridiculous preorder sized content DLC. They might as well not have done that but they did because they got greedy. It got more than enough sales, you cannot tell me they did not have a good time on this platform.

[truxtonet]

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Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

The way the DLCs are described is very poor, it made me think that the biomes were locked behind money. It's still a bad model, it feels like a forced donation.

Forced donation is an oxymoron

In the context of my argument, regardless of it being an oxymoron, the issue here isn't terminology. It was applied perfectly in this context nonetheless. The absurdity of paying 6.99 for so little, they don't even label it as for support. It's such a slap in the face and you guys were ok with it. Player accessibility should be a thing and I see none of that. They clearly wanted to make a profit.

[Knee]

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

Първоначално публикувано от Knee:

Forced donation is an oxymoron

In the context of my argument, regardless of it being an oxymoron, the issue here isn't terminology. It was applied perfectly in this context nonetheless. The absurdity of paying 6.99 for so little, they don't even label it as for support. It's such a slap in the face and you guys were ok with it. Player accessibility should be a thing and I see none of that. They clearly wanted to make a profit.

But you're never forced to spend money on games, or game-related things, so it's still an oxymoron that makes no sense.

[truxtonet]

Първоначално публикувано от Knee:

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

In the context of my argument, regardless of it being an oxymoron, the issue here isn't terminology. It was applied perfectly in this context nonetheless. The absurdity of paying 6.99 for so little, they don't even label it as for support. It's such a slap in the face and you guys were ok with it. Player accessibility should be a thing and I see none of that. They clearly wanted to make a profit.

But you're never forced to spend money on games, or game-related things, so it's still an oxymoron that makes no sense.

Then they should not make it look like a donation. 2 characters and 4 guns is a joke for 6.99. Clearly it's supposed to be some form of donation at this point because if you want to tell me 2 characters and 4 guns for 6.99 x3 is great then you've been dropped on your head as a kid there is no other explanation i Dont care about spending money its the value i could buy this whole store if i wanted to i don't care at all but this is ridiculous i want to support the people that deserve it and this is messed up.

[931numbers]

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

Then they should not make it look like a donation. 2 characters and 4 guns is a joke for 6.99. Clearly it's supposed to be some form of donation at this point because if you want to tell me 2 characters and 4 guns for 6.99 x3 is great then you've been dropped on your head as a kid there is no other explanation i Dont care about spending money its the value i could buy this whole store if i wanted to i don't care at all but this is ridiculous i want to support the people that deserve it and this is messed up.

You're the only one saying it's a donation.

Literally nowhere on any of the official Steam DLC pages does it have any reference to donations or supporting the developers. None at all.

It is clearly marked as a DLC, you get extra stuff by paying extra. If you think it's too expensive, that's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion and you don't have to buy, just like anyone else who thinks the same. But don't go around calling everyone else stupid for not believing you just because they think the price is alright.

But somehow I don't think you'll take this into consideration.

[nul]

If its not for you, it's not for you.

And I'm not even saying this as someone who's bought all the DLC, because, well, I haven't.

The 2 new characters and 4 weapons are not worth it for me. So I... didn't buy them. But I still don't feel entitled to having them for free.


Yes, I would prefer if all of the content was earned by playing the game, one of the things I don't like about DLC unlocks is that it feels too transactional. That you just get something by merely paying for it, instead of having to earn it through gameplay. But it having a price tag isn't the issue I have.

[truxtonet]

Първоначално публикувано от nul:

If its not for you, it's not for you.

And I'm not even saying this as someone who's bought all the DLC, because, well, I haven't.

The 2 new characters and 4 weapons are not worth it for me. So I... didn't buy them. But I still don't feel entitled to having them for free.


Yes, I would prefer if all of the content was earned by playing the game, one of the things I don't like about DLC unlocks is that it feels too transactional. That you just get something by merely paying for it, instead of having to earn it through gameplay. But it having a price tag isn't the issue I have.

you must have misread because i didn't say i want it for free. i said the price is ridiculous.

[Knee]

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Първоначално публикувано от Knee:

But you're never forced to spend money on games, or game-related things, so it's still an oxymoron that makes no sense.

Then they should not make it look like a donation. 2 characters and 4 guns is a joke for 6.99. Clearly it's supposed to be some form of donation at this point because if you want to tell me 2 characters and 4 guns for 6.99 x3 is great then you've been dropped on your head as a kid there is no other explanation i Dont care about spending money its the value i could buy this whole store if i wanted to i don't care at all but this is ridiculous i want to support the people that deserve it and this is messed up.

You not liking the price of something is natural, but that doesn't mean you've been wronged. Simply don't buy it.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

You are still paying the same price you were before. I looked at the data and they took off 70 cents on both dlcs and 1 dollar off the oldest. All of this in 3 years. I've been waiting that whole time for them to be affordable because I would rather support an indie studio for example Bronana instead of spending 6.99 for such a ridiculous preorder sized content DLC. They might as well not have done that but they did because they got greedy. It got more than enough sales, you cannot tell me they did not have a good time on this platform.

Support? indie company? The 70 cents doesn't matter, what is your ideal price for the humanitarian aid?

I can only see a person who really want to buy the DLC but is waiting for a discount. No need to glorify your action or motivation. We all understand the struggles and suffrage.

[nul]

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

you must have misread because i didn't say i want it for free. i said the price is ridiculous.

Read this post you just posted.
Then read your OP again.

[truxtonet]

Първоначално публикувано от nul:

Първоначално публикувано от truxtonet:

you must have misread because i didn't say i want it for free. i said the price is ridiculous.

Read this post you just posted.
Then read your OP again.

yeah you definitely lack reading comprehension, sorry to be the one to tell you man. you drew an assumption out of thin air.

[Schwerer Rammbrokk]

Първоначално публикувано от nul:

yeah you definitely lack reading comprehension, sorry to be the one to tell you man. you drew an assumption out of thin air.

Eh fine, I'll bite again.

Tbh I'm actually a bit confused at this point. You almost make it look like you want an actual discussion, and then you turn around and answer with stupid rage bait bs like this.

The point you were making in your initial post, albeit maybe unintentionally, was almost literally "selling major content updates as DLC is a predatory scheme for which the devs should be in hot water." Rather than getting touchy about it, could you please help us out and elaborate how this was supposed to be understood as something else than "they should publish the content for free"?