Gunfire Reborn

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Rainy days. Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:00am
Any tips for Spiritual Assault?
Frankly, I'm really starting to hate this mode.

By level 5 it feels like every enemy has at least a million HP- By level 10 they inflict status 100% of the time- 15 they have nearly unbreakable armor- etc, etc.

And I'm just severely punished at each Level up, just because RNG didn't give me some 1-in-a-million niche Scroll that gives me the ever so slightest advantage, or factoring in more RNG for a weapon that's half-way decent via its further-RNG-dependent inscriptions, etc.

Yea, I get that I can fit programs into my Navi Cust those spiritual things into that grid for other bonuses, but if I'm being honest it feels like 90% of them are terrible.

I can get up to like Level 20 if RNG isn't against me 90% of the time, but even then the game's difficulty just continues to skyrocket for what feels really artificial, so I'm asking if there are any tips to deal with this.
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Eudicots Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:49am 
I would first recommend that you have a good amount of excess souls to re-roll spiritual ascensions. These are the most important aspects of your build in this mode. You will not be able to make a strong build without picking the right ones. These have significantly less RNG required because you can re-roll.

Then you should build your Jades with specific Spiritual Ascensions in mind. Jades are meant to support your build so you have to knowingly pick the right ones ahead of time. You have to go into the mode fully knowing what direction you intended to build towards.

Example: Generic Weapon Build

Jades:
Craftsman's Inheritor: To upgrade my weapon as much as possible
Supreme Craftsman: To get the right weapon inscriptions
Skilled Craftsman: To upgrade my weapon more
New Look: To increase my chances of getting the exact weapon type I want
Stronger Arrow: Increase weapon DMG
Total Recovery: To keep up momentum
Skill enhancement: Just in case
Shrinking Ground for single player or Combat Medic for multiplayer

Spiritual Ascensions:
Glass Cannon
Firearm Specialist
Well Trained
Last edited by Eudicots; Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:55am
Rainy days. Mar 23, 2023 @ 8:10am 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2951063455

Obtained that Easy Kill scroll nearly right away, and found numerous other scrolls/etc to continue buffing Cleave to the point of absurdity. Around Level 25 I'm one/two-shotting everything with cleave to further buff it.

Around Level 30 every single enemy has enough armor/hp to tank my Cleave damage several times over.

Yea, I'm not doing Spiritual anymore. It's not fun, it't not fair, and it's not even worth the constant frustration. Because if funneling everything into a max-damage build STILL isn't enough, then I don't see how anyone is able to beat Spiritual outside of using some third party cheating engine.
Eudicots Mar 23, 2023 @ 8:16am 
You need the spiritual ascension Claymore Slash otherwise your cleave build will fall off since easy kill has a cap of 3000 on this mode. What spiritual ascensions did you pick?
Rainy days. Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Eudicots:
easy kill has a cap of 3000
That is nice to know.
Rainy days. Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Rainy days.:
it's not even worth the constant frustration.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2951110564

In a single in-human-level split second, a Yaksha spawns right behind me and 1-shots me.

Fair.
Rainy days. Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:42pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2951371441

Yea, I'm not playing this mode anymore, since all it does is makes me hate this game in it's entirety. It's bad enough every time it says the enemies get stronger that its just code for "we gave everyone another million HP".

You are severely punished for getting so much as a single scroll that doesn't result in some overpowered gimmick that becomes dead upon level 30, and post-20 you just struggle until an enemy magically spawns on top of you to rob you of your free revive.

You cant "roll with the punches" when this mode tells you to go F yourself just because you weren't absurdly lucky at every single level up, and in which case, it relegates the entire mode to being no different then winning the lottery, when there's little to no skill involved and it boiling down to sheer RNG and virtually nothing else.
Eudicots Mar 23, 2023 @ 10:34pm 
It doesn't take amazing RNG to do this mode. It is an unpopular mode because of how incredibly easy it is to beat. Mainly because the spiritual components can all be controlled. This results in the weakest RNG dependent builds to date.

I understand that it might be frustrating at first, but you have to understand that builds that work in Campaign won't work the same way the do here. You have to learn new mechanics and accept failures. After all this is a rogue. You are expected to lose multiple times when you start off.
Feyh Mar 24, 2023 @ 3:24am 
It gets extremely easy once you combine a fast weapon, e.g. rainbow or radioactive gauntlet, with a high-projectile weapon, e.g. argus or another 10+ projectile weapon, and reroll them to spore gemini. Doesn't matter which character, you just start melting stuff by holding left click. If you select the "+3 to all weapon levels" thing in your cube you will get weapons with gemini in the first 3 minutes.

This is always my go to early-game weapon choice until I get weapons or scrolls for other options. But you can also roll with it 'till the end since it is so strong. Fire girl and sword girl scale perfectly with this because of their on hit effects.
Last edited by Feyh; Mar 24, 2023 @ 9:10am
Rainy days. Mar 24, 2023 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by Eudicots:
You have to learn new mechanics and accept failures.
I suppose part of my frustrations stems from the fact I'm letting stupid things get to me too easily, and that I can't exactly find a decent starting point to learn from. I don't know what I'm doing wrong vs right when I keep hitting the same roadblock from multiple approaches, and none of which give me any sort of implication towards what to work with.

Hell, part of why I'm using Li is because Fire does more damage against armor, but even that doesn't seem to do anything.
Ninja Zyborg Mar 24, 2023 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Rainy days.:
Hell, part of why I'm using Li is because Fire does more damage against armor, but even that doesn't seem to do anything.
that's not even true. Fire is good against flesh, electric against shield and corrosion against armor.
erogg Mar 24, 2023 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:
Originally posted by Rainy days.:
Hell, part of why I'm using Li is because Fire does more damage against armor, but even that doesn't seem to do anything.
that's not even true. Fire is good against flesh, electric against shield and corrosion against armor.
Fire only does 75% damage against armor or shield.. :cinnamon2:
Rainy days. Mar 24, 2023 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:
Originally posted by Rainy days.:
Hell, part of why I'm using Li is because Fire does more damage against armor, but even that doesn't seem to do anything.
that's not even true. Fire is good against flesh, electric against shield and corrosion against armor.
Oh it was Corrosion- God, I'm an idiot.....
Bananahow Mar 24, 2023 @ 11:41pm 
something that I just found was using the chromatic magazine jade was super helpful in clearing waves, as having all the pulses go out meant that any enemy near me was instantly dazed or whatever the effect is called and since it was every reload it was a very reliable way to keep damage from coming in randomly
Empukris Mar 26, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
Yes my group stop playing this recently because when you understand the trick it become too easy. It is just about get the right weapon. Some weapon and build combination is just trash in this mission and spore is still broken. A few time we kill things so fast that the elite dies faster in a few second the moment you point that gun on his direction.

Confuse is really good too here since you have so many enemy they will just hit each other.

Explosion, i thought is good at first but it rely too much on your build and there is a few time that it stop dealing enough damage the moment you see those elite spawn like crazy.

The only thing I hate is that 8x qian dragon thing. That little pos is really annoying to kill.
Last edited by Empukris; Mar 26, 2023 @ 6:47pm
Rainy days. Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953558081

Elemental reloads and everything.

First life was robbed from me when a Monk just looked at me funny and suddenly I died from nothing.

Second life- White Shark gets extremely lucky and magically chains me through a wall; I have no shields + 5HP left. I kill a lobster while my shield is full and 5 seconds later I die from nothing. Had no element junk on me or anything. Game just decides I'm dead for no reason at all.

Only plus is that Level 33 is now my current record, yet I'm clearly still godawful because I don't have eyes in the back of my head nor an ability to auto-lock onto every head possible.
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Date Posted: Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:00am
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