Crit against shielded monsters?

[*****]

I noticed that from Act 2 onwards, you can't crit against shielded monsters by hitting their weakpoints, while they have shields anymore.

Is this a bug? It seems a really bad idea to me if it's not.

It doesn't reward skill anymore, makes fights tedious instead of exciting, makes lighting damage even more important than before and negates a lot of abilities of weapons, ascensions etc... that all rely on making crits (which again, would reward skill and not tedious hammering away at a slowly decreasing blue HP bar)

Also, this is almoist a first, so far I liked all the stuff put into the game, kinda disappointed :(

[Rugged Lemmings]

No idea what you're talking about, fam. Crits still pop regardless of if the person has shields/armor. They wouldn't have them work in Act 1 then suddenly stop working beyond that, if anything it'd be some kind of all-or-nothing challenge mode (i.e. have no crits pop if the enemy has shield/armor on).

One thing I will point out is that weapons in Act 1 drop off HARD in Act 2. So my best guess as to what you're experiencing is trying to crit with an Act 1 weapon against Act 2+ enemies and the damage just isn't there despite you getting a crit. If you're looking for the Big Boi Git Rekt damage from crits like you were seeing in Act 1 you're going to need a high crit weapon with the crit gemini on another high crit weapon.

[*****]

(To clarify, I'm talking about the monsters having shields, not the player, just in case that was confusing...)

Also, this is not my first time playing, you see... So, I have some previous playtime to compare this to... I know that act 2 gets more difficult and the monsters have much more max HP, so I do expect my weapons to do less damage then, but crits should still do more damage than normal hits... And against shielded monsters in Act 2,3,4 they don't...

Also, I don't get the 'ding' sound from making a crit, no matter where I hit the monster (while it still has shield). As soon as the monster's shield is gone, I do get the 'ding's sound from crits again and do the damage I'd expect.... So far I noticed this in Reincarnation 8 and NIghtmare..., Monsters with armor still take crit damage normally, so it's weird, I think...

[Muscles]

I heard they DO trigger against weakpoints while they still have a shield on. It just doesn't play the crit sound it would've otherwise (I think they should be playing that sound though). Another thing that makes it confusing is that the colour for a lucky hit and a critical hit is either yellow or orange.

I didn't think crits could trigger against shields at first. I had to ask two different friends on what they thought about it. Sometimes I still wonder if the critical hits are triggering or not.

[Rugged Lemmings]

I assure you that you're still critting. To be fair, what Muscles mentioned is correct: the ding doesn't always play when you get a crit, so if that's what you're basing this off of then I'd recommend trying to pay attention to your damage numbers to see the difference between a for-sure non-crit and something that should be a for-sure crit.

[Intra]

Are you talking about the blue bar or the physical shields like the big guys? Acid and certain weapons can penetrate physical shields, everyone else can be crit by hitting headshot/weak point.

[Simple Tora]

I've had a similar experience but it happens in act 1 as well. Critting enemies and doing the damage but the sound doesn't play

[*****]

Ok, since I was so confused about this, just checking now with damage numbers on and (lucky find for this test) Demonlore, which basically counted the crits for me, I did still crit against monsters with the blue shield HP bar... Weird how, since I play with damage numbers turned off (they are cool, but make it extremly difficult to see what's going on at times) I was relying on the 'ding' crit sound so much, that it made me think I was doing less damage when it didn't sound... (Maybe I shouldn't have tested this out in reincarnation 8, too XD).

I think there is a small bug, as the crit sound should play at the same rate as it does against monsters with shield HP bar as it does against those that have armor or just HP bar, but at least the damage seems to still be there :)

Apologies for the confusion and thx for helping me clear this doubt in my mind :)