The new Hurtle Turtle hero may be OP

[Pizzarugi]

I unlocked the new hero and played him with my BF. Beat the final boss.

Here is the result:
https://i.imgur.com/C8YFbRt.png

Once you get the ascensions for it, the new hero becomes an invincible death machine. I was consistently dealing 100k-200k+ damage with punches without lucky shot or crits (it appears to not be capable of doing either). Some of you may notice that I have demonlore, but the total damage of that run only had 8m from it. The remaining 32m came straight from spamming Aspis and punching everything.

Personally, I love it. I like tanks that do more than just stand around and take damage while dealing very little of it themselves. However, this does seem a tad bit ridiculous.

[ExtraSwagance[FR]]

He's not OP, you just play in easy mode.

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by ExtraSwaganceFR:

He's not OP, you just play in easy mode.

I somehow doubt 40m+ damage is necessary in reincarnation mode. It's not possible to get damage like that without incredibly rare inscriptions such as the one that lets bullets track to weakpoints.

[Jabberwock]

I think he is a fun class so far and I agree that he is pretty strong when he is focusing on the punches. I'm worried that means weapons are only a segway to get to the punching god mode, and he will get a bit stale over time being 1 dimensional.

When they said he was a melee focused class I was expecting more synergy and damage boosting with the melee weapons in the game but there is very little reason to actually use one on him, it's almost all fist bump/aegis buffs which have anti-synergy with weapons in general as you can't use them while in aegis. But he do punch real good.

[ExtraSwagance[FR]]

How would it not be necessary to do more damage in higher difficulties you haven't experienced, where enemies have insane amounts of armor and HP ? I don't get your point.

[IronWill]

Yeah, higher difficulty you will need more damage. The snakes themselves were something like 40mil health before this update.
https://i.imgur.com/F7bTwkw.png
I'm interested in seeing how broken he can be in a high reincarnation level

[letir]

He is one-punch pony, and reliant on survivability scrolls on higher Reincarnations, but punches are pretty good with right ascensions.

[Janna]

he is ridiculous even on reincarnation 8, had a 600m damage game with him, punch only for 90% of the run. I could clear an entire room with 1-2 Apsis uses. highest hit was somewhere around the 5.3m mark. the final bosses DPS check was more along the lines of simply taking an extra punch or two compared to most other enemies

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by Sav:

he is ridiculous even on reincarnation 8, had a 600m damage game with him, punch only for 90% of the run. I could clear an entire room with 1-2 Apsis uses. highest hit was somewhere around the 5.3m mark. the final bosses DPS check was more along the lines of simply taking an extra punch or two compared to most other enemies

Going to need to ask for proof on 600 million. That would be by far the highest I'd have ever seen in a game. A 5.3 million damage punch also feels extremely exaggerated.

[Zoso]

Definitely needs nerfed, played a game on reincarnation 1 to reintroduce a friend to the game. First play through with him. My friends managed 30mil and 50 mil damage. I did 113 million. I didn't even use weapons, use your shield, launch yourself across the room and punch everything to death. I still only have one run with him so that's easy enough to show as well.

[Eudicots]

If you played on R8 this characters short comings become a lot more visible since there are certain scrolls, ascensions, blessings that are basically required to be able to maintain his damage late game. Other builds have the craftsman to reduces their reliant on these 3 factors, but not Qian Sui. This makes his dps build less reliable. Sure you can have a Game with 600 mil dmg done, but how often are you able to repeat that?

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Incredibly average:

Originally posted by Sav:

he is ridiculous even on reincarnation 8, had a 600m damage game with him, punch only for 90% of the run. I could clear an entire room with 1-2 Apsis uses. highest hit was somewhere around the 5.3m mark. the final bosses DPS check was more along the lines of simply taking an extra punch or two compared to most other enemies

Going to need to ask for proof on 600 million. That would be by far the highest I'd have ever seen in a game. A 5.3 million damage punch also feels extremely exaggerated.

You can check reddit, there's a screenshot of 600m r8 turtle, dunno if it's from the same guy tho