Gunfire Reborn

Gunfire Reborn

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Long Dangler Jun 15, 2020 @ 12:46pm
Can you dodge everything / am I bad
I've been struggling with the first boss a lot because it seems like you are forced to take damage. If he gets too close then you literally can't dash out of the aoe bomb thing or the lasers. Sometimes he attacks faster than your dash cooldown. At least that's what it feels like to me. It's difficult to practice against because you have to do the entire level again for one attempt.
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Lemdoran Jun 15, 2020 @ 1:03pm 
I won't say you're bad, he need a little experience to learn his pattern, but yes, he's 100% fully dodgeable (even at lvl 1 and without special scrolls ) and it's a steam achievement by the way ^^


If you ask i suppose that you're lower than lvl 30 and play the kitten hero. (if not, consider using him more than ao bai cause ao bai need more talent tree unlock for really shine and compensate his non defensiveness by incredible firepower)

So if i can permit, he're 3 tips;

1 - Your weapon size matter, you'll run faster with the foundry (base weapon) or with light weapons. Consider using light for helping you.

2 - The neko "ultimate" (the orb) can't really "stop" him like it does with monsters BUT it break the boss momentum. Timed right, you can effectively "make him fall in place" when he try to jump to you.

3 - The boss room have 2 pillars, you can use them to make a barrier between you and him. He's large enough so you can hit him, without being hit yourself :)
hotmatrixx Jun 15, 2020 @ 2:15pm 
The actual key to keeping him away from you, is to learn how to use Fusions to get enough damage on him, that he runs away regularly - or you kill him outright before he gets to you.... to keep him at a distance, along with the slow effect of your grenades;
dHeX ⛤ Jun 15, 2020 @ 2:54pm 
He can be very unforgiving until you learn him.
It is possible to beat him without taking any damage at all.
Don't give up!

Do be aware that unlike some games dash does not actually give you god frames, you will still take damage if an attack hits you.

Keep as much distance from him as you can and always keep moving, dash alone won't always keep you from getting hit.
Bounty® Jun 15, 2020 @ 4:32pm 
As lem said, the pillars are key. All his attacks can be blocked by the pillar (His shot attack, bomb, jump). The pillars will break eventually though, so keep that in mind. Electric damage for his shields does wonders as well. Good luck.
Ragemonkey Jun 15, 2020 @ 5:18pm 
I agree, starting out the pillars are key. They negate half the fight for you.

I certainly wouldn't say you are bad, just need to learn the timing a bit more, as most players have to starting out.

With the big projectile, don't dodge as soon as the dinner plate template shows up, you need the projectile to actually start launching to dodge it correctly. To be honest the indicators can be a bit misleading and boss animations are much better to look at for dodging in my opinion.
HearNoEvil Jun 15, 2020 @ 5:40pm 
1st boss took some time to learn but you can def learn his attacks and time your dashes right. 2nd boss and his beginning attack is where i struggle but after that he's also easy.
Last edited by HearNoEvil; Jun 15, 2020 @ 5:40pm
Frosty the Pyro Jun 15, 2020 @ 5:44pm 
also strafing (side to side) seems to work better at dodgeing than front to back.
Voodoo Pork Jun 15, 2020 @ 10:23pm 
I've beaten him a few times, and here's what I've learned:

- Fighting Lu Wu without a shock weapon is very, very difficult. If I don't have one by the boss room, I reset. The Thunder Gloves are very good because they have excellent range and strip his shield.
- He should always be under toxic effects. Get grenade buffs. The orb is kinda useless except for some extra hits. The stun effect on him is inconsistent.
- Triple dash (a scroll pickup) makes this fight way easier.
- Miasma (shock + toxic) is incredibly effective against him.
- If you're behind a pillar, even if his targeting reticle is on the ground, his shot will hit the pillar.
- Always fire at him when he's recharging his shield. He will take shield damage even when recharging.

Overall, I feel this boss has approximately 10x as much health and WAY too much damage as he should for a level 1 boss. He can practically two shot you. Either less health or way less damage would make this boss more fun and less frustrating.

You can blow through Level 1 with kinda crappy RNG but still make it, and then slam right into Lu Wu and get destroyed, which feels unfair and unbalanced.
Long Dangler Jun 16, 2020 @ 4:04am 
Originally posted by Voodoo Pork:
I've beaten him a few times, and here's what I've learned:

- Fighting Lu Wu without a shock weapon is very, very difficult. If I don't have one by the boss room, I reset. The Thunder Gloves are very good because they have excellent range and strip his shield.
- He should always be under toxic effects. Get grenade buffs. The orb is kinda useless except for some extra hits. The stun effect on him is inconsistent.
- Triple dash (a scroll pickup) makes this fight way easier.
- Miasma (shock + toxic) is incredibly effective against him.
- If you're behind a pillar, even if his targeting reticle is on the ground, his shot will hit the pillar.
- Always fire at him when he's recharging his shield. He will take shield damage even when recharging.

Overall, I feel this boss has approximately 10x as much health and WAY too much damage as he should for a level 1 boss. He can practically two shot you. Either less health or way less damage would make this boss more fun and less frustrating.

You can blow through Level 1 with kinda crappy RNG but still make it, and then slam right into Lu Wu and get destroyed, which feels unfair and unbalanced.
I think your last point may be why this stuck out to me. I killed him fairly easily on literally my first run but I think that may have been all the achievement drops. I have yet to see a naturally spawned legendary.
Last edited by Long Dangler; Jun 16, 2020 @ 4:04am
stevebanana Jun 16, 2020 @ 4:44am 
I have some tips for lu wu for you

(overall try to avoid weapons that slow you down smg's and the kunai are pretty good weapons for this fight and as stated above elemental weapons help but the fight is still very achievable without them)
-when he throws the rock at you dash backwards, left, or right this (given you don't have slow effects) will let you dodge 100 percent of the time
-when he shoots lasers at you dash to your left or right then continue to jump and strafe to avoid the following lasers
-whenever he jumps towards you dash backwards while using your orb this will make him drop rather than leap to you.
-if he gets close enough to you to punch you a well timed dashed forward can avoid it.

basically the key to this fight is to memorize his moves and memorizing when to dash.

I kinda have to disagree with some of the people above, for me the boss feels completely fair, every time i get hit i feel like its my fault rather than poor game design. and given the right scrolls and weapons the boss can be easily killed under 2-3 minutes.

Hope this helps : )
Majestik Møøse Jun 16, 2020 @ 5:24am 
Honestly it took me 4-5 tries to make it past him and then even after that i died every second time until about 5 kills on him. I mostly just stood next to a pillar and it would block 3/4 of his damage (note: pillars do break after a few shots). I found it mostly came down to if i had a weapon to do enough damage to him and picking the correct upgrades during the level. Other than that don't worry, once you get a few levels and can upgrade shield/hp/damage resist and gun damage he quickly becomes a walk in the park.
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