Idols' Mood

[Thasher]

Im having trouble keeping the girls' mood up. It doesnt feel like upping their wages help, giving them the right jobs and i been giving them extra breaks. Also added stuff in the breakroom. I must have missed something in the first story mission because i dont know how to improve their moods.

[𝕯𝔢𝔞𝔡𝕰𝔫𝔡𝔡]

So far giving them money and certain events from what I can tell affects their mood. The more jobs/songs they do, the more popularity they gain and generally want to be paid more to be happy.

[Wraith_Magus]

The change in mood is indicated by the face in the top left and the background of the icon. I saw the girls go from gray (neutral) to green (happy) off of coming back from a job they liked even though they failed, and when I had Mariya finish recording a song, the other girls became happier as well, for some reason.

[Wraith_Magus]

Also, be sure to go to the "Manage Idols" tab (it doesn't appear in all modes, like the custom office one), and you will see how much wages are needed to break even.

Popularity (Fame and Infamy) inflate the demand for wages really fast. The girls basically seem to demand 140 + half their popularity in KN as salary.

Any time the girls do a job, their fame or infamy goes up, so it can really skyrocket the expected price without you noticing. There's no automatic adjuster for it, either, although the girls will occasionally complain if you haven't been paying them enough. Without babysitting the Manage Idols tab, you can think you're paying a lot because hey, you upped their salary to 200, shouldn't they be happy... only they actually expect 400...

[mademan2]

It seems to be directly tied to the jobs you give them. Send them on a two jobs that they dislike and their picture will turn brown or red. Also if they get tired even once, meaning getting close to 0 hp they will be very unhappy even after they get the hp back. It seems very important to not let them become unhappy in the first place, when they are unhappy they will get anxiety and such and tretment is super epxensive. Its better to wait for right jobs and take it easy on them so they wont get unhappy.

[Thasher]

After watching Samukuns video I think that failing jobs affects their moods. What’s number range is considered medium and high for stats? Some reason I thought twenties was considered high lol.

[Wraith_Magus]

The problem with "high stats" is that your idols can train forever and there's no apparent cap. Also, as far as I can tell, jobs are just random. Having 10 in a stat might give you a 40% chance of success, having 20 in a stat might give you 50% and having 40 in that stat will give you a 60% chance of success, but it's all fundamentally a roll of the dice, and you need to simply roll with bad outcomes.

That said, failing a job does not seem to cause a bad mood. I sent Julie off on a gravure job she failed, and it still sent her from grey (neutral) to blue (ecstatic). What matters is that the idol likes the job in the first place.

Again, the biggest reason I've had girls slip from blue back down to green is just because I didn't notice they'd gained enough fame (usually from growth over time through song sales) to be unhappy with their current salary.

That said, yeah, avoid letting your girls hit 0 hp at all costs. Always send girls on break before putting them on a job, and you can cancel the job like any other task to have them return immediately. (Seems like a bug.) Do that on game shows to avoid having an injury. There's no penalty for cancelling a job, although you don't get any of the rewards.

[Trekner]

what i wanna know is why vacation is a job.... and not just something you can do when ever you want to.

[Trekner]

and i get the feeling their play testers where fools... i was able to break the toturial on my first attempt, but giving sasami more money before she asked for it, which breaks the toturial so that you will never be able to hire anyone else.

[Nemjen]

If you haven't done so already I highly recommend starting and working your way through the story mode of the game, this is where the main mechanics are introduced. The early story missions are also slightly more forgiving in some areas than just going straight into free play mode.

Originally posted by Trekner:

what i wanna know is why vacation is a job.... and not just something you can do when ever you want to.

Because of its high INFAMY reduction, being able to do it at will would end up invalidating the stat. Its meant to be a reward like the golden onsen ticket.

Originally posted by Trekner:

and i get the feeling their play testers where fools... i was able to break the toturial on my first attempt, but giving sasami more money before she asked for it, which breaks the toturial so that you will never be able to hire anyone else.

That foolish tester would like to point out that the objective is to increase her salary to 150KN therefore if you set it higher you will need to lower it to this value to clear the objective.

[Trekner]

Originally posted by Nemjen:

If you haven't done so already I highly recommend starting and working your way through the story mode of the game, this is where the main mechanics are introduced. The early story missions are also slightly more forgiving in some areas than just going straight into free play mode.

Originally posted by Trekner:

what i wanna know is why vacation is a job.... and not just something you can do when ever you want to.

Because of its high INFAMY reduction, being able to do it at will would end up invalidating the stat. Its meant to be a reward like the golden onsen ticket.

Originally posted by Trekner:

and i get the feeling their play testers where fools... i was able to break the toturial on my first attempt, but giving sasami more money before she asked for it, which breaks the toturial so that you will never be able to hire anyone else.

That foolish tester would like to point out that the objective is to increase her salary to 150KN therefore if you set it higher you will need to lower it to this value to clear the objective.

I want to point out to that foolish tester that the game only ever told me to go into girls managment and after that nothing happened, it never told me to give her 150 and when i looked to the "quest reminder" it also only said just to enter the girls management.
So there was no way i could have known to give her 150, in other words a bug that foolish tester should have found and told the devs about, so they could add the 150 to their Quest reminder.

[Nemjen]

If the objective indicator (the trophy icon) isn't giving you the correct objective then that is another story and would be an bug that could be flagged without the need to make a post personal - we can then get that investigated and once replicated it can be explored if a patch is appropriate. By attacking parties right out the gate you devalue the point you're trying to make.

Anyway if the tutorial is completed as intended by the player following each objective at a time without sequence breaking when you geto to the objective of Sasami's pay she will ask you to increase her pay to 150KN with the objective saying the same thing. By replicating the steps you have mentioned I can see that if you build your audio engineering and recording booth before the game tells you too then an additional bit of dialogue from Sasami explaining how to access the songmaker menu doesn't trigger causing the objectives preview to fall out of sync, while Sasami will continue to tell you what the actual objective is in her dialogue the visual indicator (the trophy icon) will show the one prior.

I will get this behaviour flagged to see if we can get a fail safe introduced for this scenario. In the meantime if you would like to progress with the tutorial I would suggest restarting the level and this time doing the objectives in sequence.

[Trekner]

Originally posted by Nemjen:

If the objective indicator (the trophy icon) isn't giving you the correct objective then that is another story and would be an bug that could be flagged without the need to make a post personal - we can then get that investigated and once replicated it can be explored if a patch is appropriate. By attacking parties right out the gate you devalue the point you're trying to make.

Anyway if the tutorial is completed as intended by the player following each objective at a time without sequence breaking when you geto to the objective of Sasami's pay she will ask you to increase her pay to 150KN with the objective saying the same thing. By replicating the steps you have mentioned I can see that if you build your audio engineering and recording booth before the game tells you too then an additional bit of dialogue from Sasami explaining how to access the songmaker menu doesn't trigger causing the objectives preview to fall out of sync, while Sasami will continue to tell you what the actual objective is in her dialogue the visual indicator (the trophy icon) will show the one prior.

I will get this behaviour flagged to see if we can get a fail safe introduced for this scenario. In the meantime if you would like to progress with the tutorial I would suggest restarting the level and this time doing the objectives in sequence.

Well sorry about that, i did get abit heated and for that im am sorry.

But i would still suggest that vacation should not be a job, if you want it to still be important you can put a cooldown on it, like a week or 2, I say this since ive tried to "force" a vacation into the job list, by rejecting all job until one popped and it still has not popped up, at the same time the reason i wanted one, has continued to grow.

[Trevanman]

have you tried playing on easiest mode?
upping their wages definitely helps. on the wages tab, you can see how they feel about their wages.

[lemurs2]

One easy trick to lowering wage need is sending an idol on vacation. Infamy is a kind of fame and they will demand higher wages for high infamy. Send them to the countryside to cool down, then lower their wage cause they are not a hot commodity anymore.