Am I the only one?

[Danny_G13]

Who can count themselves a big fan of the first two, and loves the change of pace in the third?

Like, the third was not popular among hardcore fans of the original Remedy offerings, but I love the change of pace and the humour. 1 & 2 were classics but very serious and I like the fact the third one gives a bit of a change to that.

Fwiw the first one is of course the best, and the second one, while still good, for me doesn't have the same magic, sparkle, the right Max himself and is also too short. But a lot of fans of the pair of these have so much hate for the Rockstar effort.

I can't count myself among them. Sure, it pretty much ditches the whole story and changes everything, but the thing is Max himself admits at the end of 2 that his story is finished, that he's been reborn. So a new game had to go somewhere new. And I for one am glad the direction they went in.

And being able to laugh in these games is a new thing, Gognitti's CBBB segment notwithstanding.

I'm A COLLECTUH!

[aaaaaa]

the only thing I dislike about mp3 is the cutscenes. you open a door and there's a cutscene, two minutes later you touch a wall and there's another cutscene, a few minutes later you walk into a room there goes another cutscene, like wtf. those cutscenes are rather unnecessary and they really break the flow of the gameplay. other than this i am happy about mp3.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by aaaaaa:

the only thing I dislike about mp3 is the cutscenes. you open a door and there's a cutscene, two minutes later you touch a wall and there's another cutscene, a few minutes later you walk into a room there goes another cutscene, like wtf. those cutscenes are rather unnecessary and they really break the flow of the gameplay. other than this i am happy about mp3.

I admit they are rather frequent. I'm also unkeen on 'last chance kill' because he dives to the floor and takes literally about 3 seconds to stand up while being gloriously shot at. I just love the game's sense of humour though, it makes a refreshing change.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by No information given.:

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

but the thing is Max himself admits at the end of 2 that his story is finished, that he's been reborn. So a new game had to go somewhere new.

Same old trash thing companies attempt use a nostalgic Name Cash cow, Turd Raider and Hitman were the worst affected by the cash cow syndrome.

Favourite of mine that was ruined by the original devs was the rehash of FlashBack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS6Rioohcjg

Some major flaws with the reboot they tried to keep the style yet broke the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40qxiZl3-X0

You could run out of the screen things glitch up hard on the UE bad devs

With all due respect what does this have to do with my post?

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by No information given.:

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

With all due respect what does this have to do with my post?

Mp3 was essentially a reboot changed the story AKA Tomb Raider etc, Last few years seems like the popular corporate agenda for cashing in on, They destroy the core and call it a reinvention or bringing something new when it's the same old trash in a bag with well established name, Much like Macdonalds food industrial waste for the eyes and thought.

mp3 was in no way a reboot. It did not change the story. It just moved on and did something new with the franchise. Tomb Raider saw two reboots which both changed the story, so yes, that is valid, and you're right in your observations elsewhere, but it still isn't really what this thread is about.

[Archanioł]

Max Payne 3 is not Max Payne. It's good game but nothing more.
In my canon Mona survived with Max.... and there is no Max Payne 3...i'm still waiting for real noir Max Payne 3.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Archanioł:

Max Payne 3 is not Max Payne. It's good game but nothing more.
In my canon Mona survived with Max.... and there is no Max Payne 3...i'm still waiting for real noir Max Payne 3.

Max Payne 2 is not Max Payne either. The guy has a different face in each game!

[【K A M I N A】]

Max is a crazy pill popper and can't even recognize his own face anymore.

[Ezekiel]

Max Payne 3 has obvious problems, but it's, mechanically, superior to the previous games. Also, it IS a noir. The guy above doesn't even understand what noir is.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Ezekiel:

Max Payne 3 has obvious problems, but it's, mechanically, superior to the previous games. Also, it IS a noir. The guy above doesn't even understand what noir is.

It's somewhere near York.

[Mr. Rain]

End of MP2, Max is reborn.

Beginning of MP3, Max is a drunk bum reminiscing on his previous failures completely un-doing the "rebirth" of the previous game.
He also was never seen as a drunk in the first 2. And being reborn would mean that he wouldn't start drinking.

At the same time with the easter eggs in the cemetery as well as some dialogue, it's supposed to be a direct sequel. So the whole "reboot." "Soft-reboot" is thrown out the window.

Not that I don't like the game, but it feels too much like the writing is missing.
It has good ideas and concepts, but not a good execution. We could easily see the same Max we have now, but with some more deeper mentality than just constantly cursing.
Max doesn't learn or feel any different at the end of 3. Just that he got used and took his revenge.
No epiphany, no final word to help us show where he is mentally, just ends like every other generic action movie.

For me, what makes Max Payne great is that we see and hear how Max copes with these extreme measures. Not just shooting in style, but also showing the psychological damage he's fighting.
With his dream sequences showing that he's on the brink of insanity but somehow stays anchored to his messed up reality.

Max Payne 3 didn't do any of that and it feels way out of character to see Max act like he does in this one.

[Papa Leão]

The thing I hated the most about MP3 was the voice acting provided for the brazilians, being I'm a brazilian myself and the odd way they talked always broke the magic to me. The setting is also kind of all over the place with this São Paulo who looks and feels more like Rio de Janeiro.

That being said, it would have been nice if the story followed an old Max Payne running through New York trying to escape his fate at the hands of the father of that kid he killed at the bar. It would kind of remind us of the first one, since even if he had connections in the police he's not a cop anymore and we could bring some corruption back in play, maybe some Inner Circle stuff and all. Maybe even throw us some sections where we could play as a younger Max, in a dream sequence or full on flashback, showing his glory days beside Alex, his friend who got murdered at the subway by B.B. in MP.

While I don't hate MP3, in fact I like it very much, it bothers me that MP and MP2 had stablished this underground world of crime and corruption, secret societies, designer drugs and it got ditched in favor of a regular "villain wants to get all the family riches for himself" kind of story.

It is a MP game, but it's not as compelling as the first one's story nor does it have such nice characters and flow as the second.

[Danny_G13]

fwiw I despised what Remedy did to Vlad in the second game. They turned him from a fascinating and likeable villain into an absolute horror. They ruined a great character.

[Papa Leão]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

fwiw I despised what Remedy did to Vlad in the second game. They turned him from a fascinating and likeable villain into an absolute horror. They ruined a great character.

PREACH

[virtualconnor4]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

fwiw I despised what Remedy did to Vlad in the second game. They turned him from a fascinating and likeable villain into an absolute horror. They ruined a great character.

me too and I cant even bring myself to complete the 3rd act now

[Noob Herder]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

fwiw I despised what Remedy did to Vlad in the second game. They turned him from a fascinating and likeable villain into an absolute horror. They ruined a great character.

Hahahahaha if you follow the heavy film noir theme of the first MP, to a lesser extent MP2, you should've seen this coming from the beginning. If you think about it, even in MP1, Vlad NEVER did Max a favor. Out with the trash imo lol