Any way to install without having to download the H.D. textures and extras?

[Pink Zeppelin]

I like the quality of life stuff, I like being able to zoom, but the game is massive. I know some games, such as War Thunder, allow the player to tick whether or not to install the H.D. assets.

So, does anyone know if there is a way here to avoid the extra stuff?

[space]

no

massive? it's only 23gb

[Ritsuka]

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

I like the quality of life stuff, I like being able to zoom, but the game is massive. I know some games, such as War Thunder, allow the player to tick whether or not to install the H.D. assets.

So, does anyone know if there is a way here to avoid the extra stuff?

No, and the game isn't massive, if you want massive look at COD. C&C remastered will fit comfortably on a large HDD and you'd barely notice it's there. if you don't want the quality updates, invest in the original version. but you have to buy the entire collection for that.

[Cat]

No. You gotta install the whole 32 GB stuff that comes with it. You can download the freeware version for smaller space but obviously it doesn't include the HD zoomed in textures or have those new quality of life features,

[Pink Zeppelin]

Originally posted by space:

no

massive? it's only 23gb

The two games together were less than eight gigabytes. The free versions floating around are still considerably smaller... And finally, that is massive. I appreciate that the size is necessary for the H.D. textures and uncompressed videos, but I mostly bought this because I like the games and wanted to play them again with more options. The game is not going for the photo-realism and high polygon counts of most shooters, so at least for me it does seem a bit on the extravagant side to take up that much storage.

Originally posted by Ritsuka:

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

I like the quality of life stuff, I like being able to zoom, but the game is massive. I know some games, such as War Thunder, allow the player to tick whether or not to install the H.D. assets.

So, does anyone know if there is a way here to avoid the extra stuff?

No, and the game isn't massive, if you want massive look at COD. C&C remastered will fit comfortably on a large HDD and you'd barely notice it's there. if you don't want the quality updates, invest in the original version. but you have to buy the entire collection for that.

Originally posted by Cat:

No. You gotta install the whole 32 GB stuff that comes with it. You can download the freeware version for smaller space but obviously it doesn't include the HD zoomed in textures or have those new quality of life features,

A bit of a shame that, but fair enough. It was worth asking at least. I shall follow the advice of the people who made the remaster and download one of the free versions online. My current computer is primarily meant for work, so having twenty gigabytes tied up by one game is a bit too much.

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Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

The two games together were less than eight gigabytes.

this is a remaster with much higher resolution textures, i'm surprised it's this small actually

[Nyerguds]

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

The two games together were less than eight gigabytes.

Taking all the ISOs together, plus the Playstation Retaliation release, which the remaster takes briefing videos from, it's about five gigabytes, actually. I checked. But hey, let's really low-ball it and say, 500 mb for each of the 6 discs with significant video content on them (GDI, Nod, Allied, Soviet, Retaliation Allied and Retaliation Soviet); that'd make about 3 GB for the original games.

I did that calculation before, and, the resolution of the game's videos has been increased by a factor of 36, and the resolution of the terrain has been increased by a factor of 28. And that's without taking into account that the graphics are now 32-bit, so 4 times larger than the 8-bit originals anyway.

So, roughly speaking, let's say everything's pretty much x30. Thirty times those 3 GB would be 90 gb, and that's without all the bonus material. So 25 GB is extremely reasonable for everything that's in this package.

[Pink Zeppelin]

Originally posted by Nyerguds:

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

The two games together were less than eight gigabytes.

Taking all the ISOs together, plus the Playstation Retaliation release, which the remaster takes briefing videos from, it's about five gigabytes, actually. I checked. But hey, let's really low-ball it and say, 500 mb for each of the 6 discs with significant video content on them (GDI, Nod, Allied, Soviet, Retaliation Allied and Retaliation Soviet); that'd make about 3 GB for the original games.

I did that calculation before, and, the resolution of the game's videos has been increased by a factor of 36, and the resolution of the terrain has been increased by a factor of 28. And that's without taking into account that the graphics are now 32-bit, so 4 times larger than the 8-bit originals anyway.

So, roughly speaking, let's say everything's pretty much x30. Thirty times those 3 GB would be 90 gb, and that's without all the bonus material. So 25 GB is extremely reasonable for everything that's in this package.

That is true and I do not disagree that the size of the game is reasonable for all the new content added, but my position is that most of the material is superfluous to the game. Hence why I started off by asking if there is a way to play without having it all. It is a minor issue to most, though I think that taking advantage of the way Steam works would have made it better. Namely, having the extras be their own D.L.C.s which can be ticked on or off so that one could install a base game.

I realise that would be extra work. Anyway, if anyone needs me, I am currently taking my second dive into the modding community for Command and Conquer.

[Gepards]

i just noticed its 23 GB. holly EA crp

[Ritsuka]

why are we crying about the size of games that are over 20 yrs old, that got remastered and have upscaled FMVs when games like COD are well over 100+GBs

[Pink Zeppelin]

Originally posted by Ritsuka:

why are we crying about the size of games that are over 20 yrs old, that got remastered and have upscaled FMVs when games like COD are well over 100+GBs

Apples to oranges. Call of Duty is a shooter that takes graphical fidelity to an extreme degree with its three dimensional environments. The number of unique assets required for it is considerably higher than any R.T.S. released. In comparison, Command and Conquer is an older title with sprite based graphics and tiling textures.

At present, I am assuming that most of the storage space is being taken up by videos and music files which are not compressed or minimally so. The game itself should be fairly small in comparison. For reference, another R.T.S. remaster, Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition, is only 15 gigabytes.

[Ritsuka]

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

Originally posted by Ritsuka:

why are we crying about the size of games that are over 20 yrs old, that got remastered and have upscaled FMVs when games like COD are well over 100+GBs

Apples to oranges. Call of Duty is a shooter that takes graphical fidelity to an extreme degree with its three dimensional environments. The number of unique assets required for it is considerably higher than any R.T.S. released. In comparison, Command and Conquer is an older title with sprite based graphics and tiling textures.

At present, I am assuming that most of the storage space is being taken up by videos and music files which are not compressed or minimally so. The game itself should be fairly small in comparison. For reference, another R.T.S. remaster, Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition, is only 15 gigabytes.

yes, But the point for C&C R being so big is the live-action cutscenes (FMVs), which has been upscaled to 4k,not to mention all of the music included both remastered old and brand new. If people dont want the "big size" (25gb is small in todays age) they can go to the old school versions, either via freeware if its just TD they want, or the ultimate collection that has been released on steam. There they can pick and choose what they want to install game-wise.

[Nyerguds]

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

That is true and I do not disagree that the size of the game is reasonable for all the new content added, but my position is that most of the material is superfluous to the game. Hence why I started off by asking if there is a way to play without having it all. It is a minor issue to most, though I think that taking advantage of the way Steam works would have made it better. Namely, having the extras be their own D.L.C.s which can be ticked on or off so that one could install a base game.

I realise that would be extra work. Anyway, if anyone needs me, I am currently taking my second dive into the modding community for Command and Conquer.

I can't say I can understand that position. The original games in this pack have been freeware for over a decade, meaning the high resolution and bonuses are pretty much the only selling point of the remaster.

So if you don't want those... uh, just get the original games? There's your lighter version. 100% for free, even.

[Pink Zeppelin]

Originally posted by Nyerguds:

Originally posted by Pink Zeppelin:

That is true and I do not disagree that the size of the game is reasonable for all the new content added, but my position is that most of the material is superfluous to the game. Hence why I started off by asking if there is a way to play without having it all. It is a minor issue to most, though I think that taking advantage of the way Steam works would have made it better. Namely, having the extras be their own D.L.C.s which can be ticked on or off so that one could install a base game.

I realise that would be extra work. Anyway, if anyone needs me, I am currently taking my second dive into the modding community for Command and Conquer.

I can't say I can understand that position. The original games in this pack have been freeware for over a decade, meaning the high resolution and bonuses are pretty much the only selling point of the remaster.

So if you don't want those... uh, just get the original games? There's your lighter version. 100% for free, even.

I think people missed that I already said I was going to do this and have already gotten them. That said... Eh? I got it because I wanted a supported version of the game with quality of life stuff built in (such as mod support). Also, to be frank, I am a bit of a sucker for supporting people I like.

I would argue that most consumers do not have the patience to get older games to run nicely on modern systems. GOG has several successful games which are just more convenient versions to run.

[Nyerguds]

Come now. The community-created full game installers are all really simple "download, install and run" solutions. The only difference with GOG is that they're free

[eskimo]

Mountain out of a mole hill.