How well did the remastered collection sell?

[NEON]

I thought to ask because, if it did sell well, I wonder why EA are waiting to remaster the rest of the series, like Red Alert 2 or Tiberiun Sun.

What do you guys think?

[Volkov]

u should phone EA

[Rin]

Probably around 100k on steam, with about 3-5k being genuinely interested in it.

Anything past RA/TB most likely has issues with the actors (i.e royalty fees) hence why they're on hold indefinitely.

This is the same issue you have with a bunch of old Japanese games that are voiced.

AoE is more popular because it's AoE, which is why it has more staying power even if the numbers are low. RTS was always a niche and even more so now thanks to MOBAs, hero shooters and BR. Being EA probably doesn't help much either. I know it left a sour taste in my mouth for quite some time i.e FU Origin and EA being EA.

[Cat]

Originally posted by Nyx:

I thought to ask because, if it did sell well, I wonder why EA are waiting to remaster the rest of the series, like Red Alert 2 or Tiberiun Sun.

What do you guys think?

I think it's because they don't care about C&C that much. If they do, they would have remastered this years ago. The remaster was announced some time after Rivals failed, as if they were trying to save face and it works. Seems like they're quitting while they're still ahead. We might get another remaster collection if we're this lucky again.

[Jan]

It seems that on average a game gets 1 review per ~50 sales.
Depending on how motivated people are to praise a game, vent their anger or if they just dont care because for example the game was free the ratio can vary a lot from 1:25 to 1:200.
Taking the low end ratio for C&C Remaster it could have 22551 reviews * 25 = 556773 sales on steam.

Originally posted by Nyx:

I thought to ask because, if it did sell well, I wonder why EA are waiting to remaster the rest of the series, like Red Alert 2 or Tiberiun Sun.

What do you guys think?

Maybe the team is small and needs time.
Or the team is just not interested in doing a similiar job yet again.
No doubt it would be a huge success though.

[HE1NZ]

Between 500k-1m copies on Steam + some Origins sales.

[Crypto Gamer]

Likely WAY more than 100k,according to Steam database highest player count was 42,587.

Owner estimation based on different estimation metrics on steam db ONLY it is 506.5 thousand by the lowest estimate,around 2 million is the highest estimate by steam spy based on different metrics.
According to database on average 20-55 buys the game per 1 review on STEAM.

I quess it sold about 1 million copies on STEAM,it 100% exedded sales expections it was clear few months after the release.
+it sold some on other platforms too.

I am pretty sure both RA 2 and Tibsun would be a success as well in a package.Likely even sell better than RA 1.

I also wonder why not remake the sequels,RA 2 was considered the best in the series by many people.

[NovaPrime1985]

This has been an interesting thread to read. (I don't mean that derisively btw.)

[Smoodle Doodle]

It would be better if they released a package deal for the next one if they do. I highly doubt we are going to get a revised version of RA2 anytime soon and generals...
I do hope I am wrong but sadly big corp doesnt care much for smaller games when at the end of the day they have bigger ticket items that use micro transactions. Would be better to see EA become more sub divided into smaller teams with a bit more freedom (Doubt).

If you fancy Generals though and you Own RA3 try Evolution mod for RA3 that makes a updated/new version of Generals.

[Rin]

Do remember that there exists people from 3rd world countries who pay for actual 3rd world prices and people who abuse the system whenever possible to buy this (or any other) game for 3rd world prices won't really make a dent in sales, since sales means nada if they only earned peanuts.

Imagine if 10 million people bought this game for 1 cent vs 1 million who bought this game for 1 dollar. Many like to inflate numbers even if there's no reason to.

4X, RTS, Grand Strategies, Racing and Fighting games sell quite poorly overall unless you have a really good gimmick on offer (Rocket League) or fanservice (i.e Dragon Ball whatever) these days because the market is so saturated with junk for anyone out there.

All 5 genres I mentioned have a steep learning curve where the biggest factors are time and patience. In the end at least on PC you're gonna have numbers in the low thousands once it all settles down, because people who are interested in MP are either gonna get rekt or meet a troll with nothing between. This is why all these genres nowadays get so many DLCs to make up for lost sales/dwindling user base. Some even do this deliberately as is the case with Paradox and GW which is I why I stay away from them.

I mean who cares if your game only has 1000 people playing it as long as they are "willing" to fork up 100€ on a yearly DLC which adds nothing but "fanservice".

Running servers is cheap and pumping new models/costumes is even cheaper and probably was in the making before the game had even been released. Then add the fact that you have those who even does same as the the core audience due to FOMO regardless if they are invested in the game or not so maybe 10k at best?

Arc System Works is probably the best example of that. And they release a new game every year. It's the perfect milking machine even if the games are trash and the only ones playing them on a daily basis are the ultra "hardcore" because they have nowhere else to go.

[HE1NZ]

Originally posted by Bork Bork:

Do remember that people from 3rd world countries who pay for actual 3rd world prices or people who abuse the system whenever possible to buy this (or any other) game for 3rd world prices won't really make a dent in sales, since sales means nada if they only earned peanuts.

Imagine if 10 million people bought this game for 1 cent vs 1 million people who bought this game for 1 dollar. Many like to inflate numbers even if there's no reason to.

4X, RTS, Grand Strategies and Racing and Fighting games sells quite poorly overall unless you have a really good gimmick on offer (Rocket League) or fanservice (Dragon Ball whatever whatever 42) these days because the marker is so saturated with junk for anyone and anything out there.

All 5 genres I mentioned have a step learning curve where the biggest factors are time and patience. In the end at least on PC you're gonna have numbers in the low thousands once it all settles down, because people who are interested in MP are either gonna get rekt or meet a troll with nothing between. This why all these genres nowadays get so many DLCs to make up for lost sale/dwindling user base. Some even do this deliberately as is the case with Paradox and GW which I why I stay away from them.

I mean who cares if your game only has 1000 people playing it as long as they are "willing" to fork up 100€ on yearly DLC which adds nothing but "fanservice". Running servers is cheap and pumping new models/costumes is even cheaper and probably was in the making before the game had even been released. Then add the fact that you have those who even do the same due to FOMO regardless if they are invested in the game or not so maybe 10k at best?

Arc System Works is probably the best example of that. And they release a new game on a yearly basis. It's the perfect milking machine even if the games are trash and the only ones playing them on a daily basis are the ultra hardcore because they have nowhere else to go.

Which countries have regional pricing for EA games? There were none in Russia, that's for sure. Bought it for 20 euros, which is roughly 4.5 times more expensive than Age of Empires 2 DE.

[Rin]

https://steamdb.info/app/1213210/ I know for a fact that people abuse SA currencies or Turkish Lira since that's how people trolled Lost Ark quite hard by buying founder's packs for bananas before they noticed what was going on and put an end to it.

[temps]

I would think Red Alert 2 remastered would sell a lot more than Red Alert 1 remastered.

Red Alert 1 is old enough it might just be better to remake at this point. But it's classic...

[Ritsuka]

Originally posted by temps:

I would think Red Alert 2 remastered would sell a lot more than Red Alert 1 remastered.

Red Alert 1 is old enough it might just be better to remake at this point. But it's classic...

RA1 was already remastered that's what RA is. hence why its in this remastered collection

[Rin]

No one remakes RTS because it's a niche just like the fighting genre. At best you're gonna get an updated version with fixes/additions.

[Jan]

Obviously people been happy with the C&C Remaster which is why it became this gigantic financial success. Nobody is asking for much more when it comes to Red Alert 2 or other parts of the franchise.