Command & Conquer™ Remastered Collection

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Strategy games.
So... basically... I'm new here. I have never played any strategy games (okay, I have play Total War: Rome II, but nothing else), so... I wanted to ask you... do you think everyone can get into these games? I'm an FPS fan, and I like RPGs, but I don't know if... you know... I should even try getting into games like C&C, Age of Empires, etc.
So... what do you think? :steamthumbsup:
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GTRufus Jan 23, 2021 @ 1:38pm 
i liked the first stronghold games, followed by stronghold crusader. Warzone 2100 (its freeware) is also cool.
Nightwolfnl Jan 23, 2021 @ 2:49pm 
I mean, not everyone can get into these kind of strategy games just as much as not everyone can get into other kind of genres like adventure-games or city-building games.
Personally I like the C&C-series in general (except for C&C4 of course) but I also like the Age of Empires-series, Supreme Commander-series and the Warcraft RTS-games (note: Warcraft 1 & 2).

There are also more RTS-games like that and other forms of RTS-games but these ones are good series to start with IMO.
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Mati_Lublin Jan 23, 2021 @ 3:29pm 
C&C is one of simpler (doesn't mean easy) games: one easy to gather resource, few units, no unit cap.

For ohther RTS games, try Original War, Warcraft 1&2 or World in Conflict.

There are also grand strategy games (Europa Universalis series, Crusader Kings, Stellaris, Hearts of Iron, etc.) if you prefer empire management instead.
Last edited by Mati_Lublin; Jan 23, 2021 @ 3:34pm
isemados Jan 28, 2021 @ 9:02am 
Strategy games.
is 1000 times better than fps, because its like playing 1000 FPS games at the same time in one game, with equally powering up the vitality OF playing.

sitting in one small doll is nothing.
sitting and saving thousands dolls is much better. its like level up in diablo 2 to do so.
sometimes you switch back doing the commando person ON the field while commanding,
so its somehow growing you at each other levels, RTS will not gripe without FPS, and FPS wont gripe without RTS.

C&C and AoE are very 'jesus-fair' rts games, just the beginner level, as is Counter strike & Co.

much yet much more valuable though, is to play to life the PIONEERS games, that are NOT that much popular yet, until jesus is giving them free aswell, is the highest goal of mine.

Become A PIONEER Gamer, difficulty -> Maximum and get the hardest punch back in motivation done. thats a gamer i look for and pay(jesus power pay it you will feel it): STRENGTH finally... poor only if you dont get your life situation done as a lesson learned from those games: enVITAL yourself with regional food (=1000 times more energy for price x1.5 but getting the knowlede alone is a milestone for the poor family), is the same as owning the economy in a RTS game or FPS game.

all of this bounds together. be a gamers day and nightmare sadly not all coounries provide cheap 'gamers food' aswell :( poor countries not doing so. already lost the game war.
Last edited by isemados; Jan 28, 2021 @ 9:08am
SHARK1501 Jan 28, 2021 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Nightwolfnl:
I mean, not everyone can get into these kind of strategy games just as much as not everyone can get into other kind of genres like adventure-games or city-building games.
Personally I like the C&C-series in general (except for C&C4 of course) but I also like the Age of Empires-series, Supreme Commander-series and the Warcraft RTS-games (note: Warcraft 1 & 2).

There are also more RTS-games like that and other forms of RTS-games but these ones are good series to start with IMO.
Agree with you wholeheartedly. Although I do believe we have yet to receive a True C&C 4 game (cough cough). 😉
delta Jan 31, 2021 @ 10:56am 
If you're looking to get into strategy games, I'd say check out Starcraft 2. The multiplayer and skirmish modes are free, I believe. You don't have to get really good at it, but since the controls, interface and game mechanics are similar to most other RTS games (they all copied Blizzard) that makes it a good place to start.
zeMantras Feb 1, 2021 @ 7:04am 
Heres a few, they are are great:
-stronghold crusader
-Rise of Nations: Extended Edition
-Dungeon Keeper I and II
-Empire Earth I and II
-Starcraft II

And no, not everyone is into this type of games, specially younger dumber folk. Before perhaps... since these were all pretty much mainstream products and sold quite well, now I think this style is a bit of a niche.
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Artuurs|Sick Feb 1, 2021 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by delta:
If you're looking to get into strategy games, I'd say check out Starcraft 2. The multiplayer and skirmish modes are free, I believe. You don't have to get really good at it, but since the controls, interface and game mechanics are similar to most other RTS games (they all copied Blizzard) that makes it a good place to start.
Why starcraft 2? Its trash, Starcraft 1 is better.
Artuurs|Sick Feb 1, 2021 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by zeMantras:
Heres a few, they are are great:
-stronghold crusader
-Rise of Nations: Extended Edition
-Dungeon Keeper I and II
-Empire Earth I and II
-Starcraft II

And no, not everyone is into this type of games, specially younger dumber folk. Before perhaps... since these were all pretty much mainstream products and sold quite well, now I think this style is a bit of a niche.
A mistake to suggest the trash Starcraft 2 over the superior 1. Also hey, i was a tiny little dumb kid when i played these games, its not about intelligence, its about advertising, spreading out, when dumb ''AAA'' games steal the spotlight then superior games like these will be in the shadows.
delta Feb 1, 2021 @ 5:29pm 
Okay sure, I prefer Starcraft 1 as well. But Starcraft 2 is free...the controls and interface are more convenient and newbie-friendly...and as a tutorial for RTS games in general, it works.
Artuurs|Sick Feb 1, 2021 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by delta:
Okay sure, I prefer Starcraft 1 as well. But Starcraft 2 is free...the controls and interface are more convenient and newbie-friendly...and as a tutorial for RTS games in general, it works.
Starcraft 1 is also free... and its better to play in chronological order as to not get spoiled so hard you physicaly cannot play the older games anymore, not to mention the story... start where it all started and work your way up, thats how it should go. Starcraft 2 doesnt have a tutorial, Red Alert 2 & Red Alert 3 have tutorials, a bunch of them, thats better i think to go for dedicated tutorials. Theres nothing newbie friendly about SC2, its simply just another RTS but terrible compared to what came before.
zeMantras Feb 2, 2021 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Artuurs:
Originally posted by zeMantras:
Heres a few, they are are great:
-stronghold crusader
-Rise of Nations: Extended Edition
-Dungeon Keeper I and II
-Empire Earth I and II
-Starcraft II

And no, not everyone is into this type of games, specially younger dumber folk. Before perhaps... since these were all pretty much mainstream products and sold quite well, now I think this style is a bit of a niche.
A mistake to suggest the trash Starcraft 2 over the superior 1. Also hey, i was a tiny little dumb kid when i played these games, its not about intelligence, its about advertising, spreading out, when dumb ''AAA'' games steal the spotlight then superior games like these will be in the shadows.
Advertising? Not at all . More a matter of taste , i do often show Open RA to allot of my younger friends, only a real small percentage finds it interesting and tries it (lets remind ourselves that Open Ra is free) , most of them just would rather stick to gta5 and CS GO ;) its not about advertising or spreading out, this style is already knowed, u could throw billion dollars to advertise a c&c game and a few bucks to advertise a product like CsGO, we all know what would the majority choose!. Btw above i Meant t include starcraft 1 & 2, not even gonna go to whats superior or not , love them both tbh.

Also if u want to nitpick even more... you clearly missed how i called dungeon keeper 1 and 2 an RTS and not a god game ;)
Last edited by zeMantras; Feb 2, 2021 @ 7:31am
startrekmike Feb 3, 2021 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by aSK:
So... basically... I'm new here. I have never played any strategy games (okay, I have play Total War: Rome II, but nothing else), so... I wanted to ask you... do you think everyone can get into these games? I'm an FPS fan, and I like RPGs, but I don't know if... you know... I should even try getting into games like C&C, Age of Empires, etc.
So... what do you think? :steamthumbsup:

So this is actually a pretty interesting question that deserves thoughtful exploration.

First off, it is important to keep in mind that back in the early/mid-90's when the RTS genre was first establishing itself (mostly via Dune II, Warcraft, and the first Command and Conquer titles), they were marketed as mainstream titles and sold very well as a result. These were not made to be complicated, off-putting experiences and many on this very forum got their start with the original C&C titles when they were still kids. If a kid could figure these games out back in the 90's, there is absolutely no reason why someone can't in a age where the internet has made learning how to play games easier than it has ever been.

To put it perhaps a bit more bluntly. The RTS genre in itself (especially older titles like C&C, Age of Empires, etc) is not hard to learn. The hard part is when you start getting into the player-constructed competitive meta business and that is simply not required and shouldn't be seen as the only pathway for new players coming into the genre. If you strip away all the competitive meta business and just play the games, they are pretty basic and should't really take more than a hour to get the basic hang of. To be perhaps even a bit more controversial. There are not a lot of games out there that actually are truly "hard" to learn. There are many that take more time to learn but anyone (keeping in mind that some have very real developmental/learning disabilities) who is willing to put at least some real, meaningful effort into just working through a game shouldn't have any serious issues learning it.

To put this in another context. Think of Counter-Strike for a moment. I have heard people say that Counter-Strike is a very difficult game to learn. That it is very complicated and that new players will struggle to even grasp the basics. This isn't exactly true. If one were to grab ten players who have only really casually played shooters (like Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc) and put them on a private Counter-Strike server, they would have no trouble figuring out how to play, shoot, and even grasp how the objectives work. At its core, Counter-Strike is a very basic shooter with very simple rules and mechanics. The only way it becomes complicated is when you start adding in the player-constructed competitive elements that are essentially placed on top of the game and are not exactly hard-built into its basic foundation.

So to answer your question more directly. You shouldn't worry about how hard these games are to play. Any game can be learned as long as one actually wants to learn. In this case, the older RTS format of Command and Conquer, Age of Empires, and the like is not at all difficult to grasp and you should never, ever, ever feel like you shouldn't explore them and play them on your own terms.

Nyerguds Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by aSK:
So... basically... I'm new here. I have never played any strategy games (okay, I have play Total War: Rome II, but nothing else), so... I wanted to ask you... do you think everyone can get into these games? I'm an FPS fan, and I like RPGs, but I don't know if... you know... I should even try getting into games like C&C, Age of Empires, etc.
So... what do you think? :steamthumbsup:
The games in this Remastered pack are some of the very first strategy games ever made, so, it's fair to assume that, since they managed to make the genre popular, they're pretty accessible.

However, what modern gamers often ignore in that aspect is that games in these days came with a manual, and that manual was fairly essential in understanding the core game mechanics. This game stems from an era when people still read those manuals (even if it was often just to have something to do during the lengthy CD installer :steammocking:). Not only does the original game's manual contain all details on controlling and producing your units and structures, but it also has a full tutorial on beating the first missions.

So, basically, this manual forms an essential part of the game's accessibility, and this is a detail that many modern gamers seem to ignore. Current gaming shifted focus to tutorials and in-game hints for absolutely everything, but these old games simply don't have that yet.

Now, the Remasters do have a (fairly limited) in-game hints system, but they do not actually come with manuals. They do have a useful gameplay overview page you get when you click the "Help" button on the main menu. This gives a brief overview of game functions, but it's not really the same thing as the full manual these games are supposed to have.

So I suggest you read through the original manuals. Some of the key bindings may be slightly different, and the sidebar is a bit redesigned, but 98% of the manual will still apply completely the same way to the remaster.

So, read them through. They'll give you a fairly good idea on how these games work.
Last edited by Nyerguds; Feb 5, 2021 @ 1:13am
Adler4 Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:54pm 
Try war game red dragon or steel division 😉
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