Dune - The Grandfather of Real-Time Strategy

[Gonzo850]

I found this nice video and thought I should share it here
https://youtu.be/HOemQuy2JUc

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Edward Carnby:

Dune II. Dune wasn't even an RTS game.

Yeah I think they mentioned in the video that it was very different because it was trying to set itself apart from Command & Conquer at the time? Idk

You didn't like it?

[Ramonkey]

If c&c was the prehistoric ape of rts then dune was the primordial soup

Or should I say spice?

[matthew]

@Gonzo850
Edward Carnby was correcting your mistake, Dune wasn't an RTS, that was Dune 2, and besides, its not going to happen, as the rights have reverted back to the family, and they have said no.

[Gonzo850]

I didn't even know it was a book. I thought it was a boring scifi movie. Never got my hands on the games when I was a kid.

[Duke Jason]

man i wish EA would remaster dune, its the owners of dune that are the problem tho. With new dune movie coming, might be a good time to bring this back.

[Punchmeat]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Edward Carnby:

Dune II. Dune wasn't even an RTS game.

Yeah I think they mentioned in the video that it was very different because it was trying to set itself apart from Command & Conquer at the time? Idk

You didn't like it?

What he is saying is Dune II is the RTS game. Dune I is not an RTS game. One of the few times they used a sequel naming scheme for two games in different genres.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Edward Carnby:

Dune II. Dune wasn't even an RTS game.

Yeah I think they mentioned in the video that it was very different because it was trying to set itself apart from Command & Conquer at the time? Idk

You didn't like it?

The video is talking about Dune II. The first Dune was an adventure game that at later stages of the game shifted into grand strategy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3NcFEvc4yk

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Ramonkey:

If c&c was the prehistoric ape of rts then dune was the primordial soup

Or should I say spice?

[Nick Naughty]

Dune 2 the first rts, think dune had many influences on science fiction.

Bring on the remasters, the spice must flow.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally posted by Nick Naughty:

Dune 2 the first rts,

Not really, just the one recognized as the mold for what became the modern RTS genre. There are RTSes that predate it by almost a decade, like Stonkers, The Ancient Art Of War and Bokosuka Wars . Between those and Dune II, there were also titles like Nether Earth, Realms, Herzog (& Herzog Zwei), Carrier Command or Warrior Of Rome II (which beat Dune II by a few months and included most of the staple mechanics of the genre except for resource harvesting)

Westwood itself had involvement in Battletech: The Crescent Hawk's Revenge just shortly before they started work on Dune II. Admittedly it was more RTT than RTS and did not involve base building -if you're familiar with MechCommander, CHR was that game's direct predecessor - but yeah.

[Empiro]

Dune 2 has it's place of historical significance, and I remember instantly loving the game when I first played it on a friend's computer. I even remember copying it on a bunch of floppies, but being super sad that one of the disks had an error (that friend lived many hours away, and I only got to see him rarely).

However, I don't really think it needs to be remade (though it has been several times). The setting itself just doesn't lend to fun gameplay -- it kind of boring to play on a desert map for 15 straight missions. Just look at Dune 2000 for why it's not a good idea.

Emperor: Battle For Dune was a pretty good game with some good ideas, and it varied things by just making a bunch of stuff up. It tried to find reasons to fight elsewhere, but even it still suffered from too many desert maps.

[xenon]

Emperor Battle for Dune was the best one. Spent a crazy amount of time in Multiplayer, around 2011 or so. Played MP few games a day ago and it's still good.