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Moe 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 12:10
Is this better than OpenRA?
seems open RA is better in everything BUT the graphics and, well its free. and you also have dune 2000. your thoughts?

Edit:

OpenRA for MP

REMASTERED for SP
最后由 Moe 编辑于; 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:07
引用自 ProvenSupreme:
OpenRA for QoL improvements
CnCNet for Multiplayer
Remaster for graphics and single player.
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dr46onfusion 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 1:51 
引用自 Adam_C4explO
It depends on your values towards this kind of endeavour

For me ive played cnc since day 1 more or less, and its a constant game i keep coming back to in its various forms including openra/dta/ all of them really.

Pros

Where CnC Remastered collection, stands out is
1) its controls are surprisingly quite nice, and the animations are fast, smooth and satisfying,

2) the colour profile and graphics are very very nice like playing candy crush the rts.

3) Music is incredible, and upscaling movies best effort, the acting in ra/cnc from the movies are really cool and very memorable for me. ie '1 life is a tragedy but 10 million is a statistic'

Meh

Multiplayer (whilst i havent played it yet, having it available is something i might want to try

Cons

Well remastering for warts and all. the AI they did say something along the lines of there not reinventing it, just fixing some basic bugs, but i dont think even that lol, i think its 1:1 ai from legacy. Which is a little sad,

Pathfinding: Again legacy minor changes, nothing like openra/dta improvements


Silver lining

Sauce code is available for modding, hopefully that means big things coming, but i dont have a clue.

Discounts, I wanted to support them, but steam sales will make it cheaper one day.


I wanted to support Petroglyph Games and hell EA when there not being insidious. Ive enjoyed the rts genre massively. I really really hope to see amazing things from what the remaster enables hopefully. Even if that means a future CnC game done correctly
Modding is limited to what they allow you to mod, you can't mod much of the core stuff at the very base level I think, the source code they release is only partial.

You cannot use mods online, only in single player which will turn off some players who wants to play custom gamemodes online, which is actually possible in OpenRA due to how open it is and is on a much different engine.

I think the Remastered is completely beholden and limited to it's old engine, the developers can't do much more for it, it won't make use of modern hardware at all.
Jatts 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 1:54 
lol there sure are alot of OpenRA fanboi zoomers coming out of the woodwork to bash this game for not being a "fixed" and "patched" remake and being perfect in every way, despite this collection NOT being a remake at all, but a remaster... I guess that means they can't read either, lol! :)
3D Master 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 1:55 
引用自 Kyorisu
引用自 3D Master
It's WA& better than OpenRA. OpenRA is ♥♥♥♥; you can only set monitor resolution, and there is no scaling, and it uses the old sprites. The results: everything is too small, even on 1080p, let alone 1440p or 2160p; at the latter, you probably need a magnifying class to differentiate anything.

Turn on pixel doubling.

Doesn't help.
vargablood 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 1:59 
first its a worse comparsion cause both games target different purpose..
openra is ways better if you focus on multiplayer. its well balanced and you can host your own dedicated Server for better performance on biggest maps and with thousand of units.
If you would like to experience the single player campaign like it was tought the remaster will be the way to go.

最后由 vargablood 编辑于; 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 2:03
bigsapling 2020 年 6 月 8 日 上午 2:17 
The two things going for this remaster (in my opinion) are 1) you want to support the developers 2) you wish to see the new graphics.

As always, you can get CNCnet and play the campaign exactly as it was in the 90's, or play OpenRA for the more modern multiplayer experience.

I think wanting the new graphics / supporting developers are valid points, but supporting the game in hopes of getting EA to green light a new C&C game is a bit of a false hope though, I feel.

They're a big company. This was probably a somewhat cheap to realize project with only the new sprites and multiplayer system (which is not working well) being the only new things. Creating a new C&C game would be a completely different thing and would require a much bigger budget.

QOMRADEQUEER 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:16 
i havent played cnc since my 90's childhood. not sure i ever managed to finish it.

as an adult im very much into foss software and linux.

should i try openRA or this remaster for a good sp experience?

for kane!
最后由 QOMRADEQUEER 编辑于; 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:46
Ultrabot 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:18 
eSport = openRA
Remastered = remastered
Moe 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 Magus
i havent played cnc since my 90's childhood. not sure i ever managed to finish it.

as an adult im very much into foss software and linux.

should i try openRA or this remaster for a good sp experience?

for kane!
Its seems openRA does not have the upscaled cutscenes and the new graphics. For me, i made the decision to go remaster as i want mostly the SP, also i suck at MP ;)

So like me if you purely wants the SP experience, go remaster. I hate that 26.99 price tag tho. I think 9.99$ like all the new halo games would have been better

Then again OpenRA is free. Take 2 mins to download. So try it out
最后由 Moe 编辑于; 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:55
Blackguard 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:53 
No, OpenRA is vastly superior to these remasters every way
BloodShed 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 Blackguard
No, OpenRA is vastly superior to these remasters every way

Oh? is single-player finally complete?
Moe 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 BloodShed
引用自 Blackguard
No, OpenRA is vastly superior to these remasters every way

Oh? is single-player finally complete?
Its not. They have all the missions but nothing else. No briefing no cutscenes no set progression. And dont forget no new updated graphics
BloodShed 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:03 
引用自 Moe
引用自 BloodShed

Oh? is single-player finally complete?
Its not. They have all the missions but nothing else. No briefing no cutscenes no set progression. And dont forget no new updated graphics

It was rhetorical :P

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1213210/discussions/0/2290590708541985332/?tscn=1591646498#c2290590708542082696
Blackguard 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:05 
引用自 BloodShed
引用自 Blackguard
No, OpenRA is vastly superior to these remasters every way

Oh? is single-player finally complete?

One day, one day... Buuuut it also has Dune 2000
Blackguard 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 Kyorisu
引用自 3D Master
It's WA& better than OpenRA. OpenRA is ♥♥♥♥; you can only set monitor resolution, and there is no scaling, and it uses the old sprites. The results: everything is too small, even on 1080p, let alone 1440p or 2160p; at the latter, you probably need a magnifying class to differentiate anything.

/edit newest OpenRA support UI Scaling and much better zoom controls.

You know there's an pixel doubler option and zooming in OpenRA, right?
BloodShed 2020 年 6 月 8 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 Blackguard
引用自 BloodShed

Oh? is single-player finally complete?

One day, one day... Buuuut it also has Dune 2000

And what the extra units they added? Any option to turn that off?

And what about the missing multiplayer maps from the original games?
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