Nod 8A and 8B on Hard (New Construction Options)

[CatMeowMeow]

I managed to capture the base but enemy attack with god grenadiers who one shot infantry and medium tanks.

It's very hard to build a weapons factory and you will get wreck if you try to rush weapons factory.

Guard Tower gets wrecked by 2 rocket soldier and few grenadiers

On 8B there's a swarm of light scouts (Hum-Vee)

A group of 1 grenadier and 2 minigunners will wreck my harvester

Airstrike will always one shot my harvester or already damaged conyard. And There's no defense against them!!!!!!

This mission is even harder than Last mission!!!

Anyone who knows how to finish this mission? I spent like 3 hours on this mission alone

[BlueShogun]

Just got to this one yesterday, holy cow its insane! Im noping out of this campaign til its retuned. Shame as i've been loving this remaster otherwise.

[Leluminaï]

just a short status update: i played through the entire GDI and NOD campaign on hard by now. i will never do that again and recommend normal/casual difficulty or a balance mod to everyone that asks. it is a chore after a while and without certain cheese tactics some missions are almost impossible to beat in a reasonable timeframe.

[Leluminaï]

just in case someone is not aware of it: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2122025379&searchtext=

it is still a challenge. i used it now for the other A,B,C scenarios that you also have to beat for the achievement. but i could not be bothered with it anymore to beat almost identical missions on this ridiculous excuse for a hard difficulty.

[Teddy]

I finished both on hard:

They key is a lot of safe games.
1. You need to know which attack is coming and counter it as best as you can.
2. Safe game and continue step 1.

I basically outlasted the AI and finished with a massive tank and APC attack

Also a traffec jam happend in one of the maps which made it "easier"

[Leluminaï]

yes i had the same on both sides. the AI had approximately 30-40 humvee's and medium tanks which partially clogged up at my sandbag wall and in his base. Like i wrote above: after finishing both campaigns on hard the legit way, i could not be bothered to clean up the rest of the A,B and C scenarios without the balance mod.

[xPETEZx]

Grave digging an old topic here, but need to vent and hopefully get pointers.
I have completed every mission in the game on hard (GDI / Covert / Console / Dino / Nod up to 8A/B) and I cannot beat either Nod 8A or 8B.

I have watched countless youtubes of people both sandbagging, and just building up an army of mediums and APCs, but I am not even getting close!!

I manage to get a couple guard towers up, and by then usually the first airstrike hits and either kills or seriously hurts my harvester. If it lives, it dies shortly after to infantry fire.

I am determined to beat all missions on hard and get that achievement, but man this is trying me.
The grenadiers are just god mode.

[Nightwolfnl]

8A was hard and a trial and error for me but it was less hard than 8B.

I intend to get back to this game soon™ and try and do 8B (over) again but I wanted to try and see if the videos in this guide will work for me as well. Maybe it will for you at least.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2198953672

[Nyerguds]

Nguyên văn bởi Mike:

Alright, i finally beat it! it took me over 2 hours of raw playtime according to the mission ending screen (probably 3-4 or more hours real time due to loading quicksaves over and over) and 46!!! quicksaves. also, there is NO way to beat this without the sandbag cheese method.

I dunno. I beat mission 8B in original hard mode, without sandbags. Just took a lot of micro, and, yes, quite some savegames. It basically boiled down to getting my harvester into the refinery every time an airstrike came.

[Nightwolfnl]

Just finished 8B with that video in the guide. I'm really glad I've managed to get past it now.

[Leluminaï]

Nguyên văn bởi xPETEZx:

Grave digging an old topic here, but need to vent and hopefully get pointers.
I have completed every mission in the game on hard (GDI / Covert / Console / Dino / Nod up to 8A/B) and I cannot beat either Nod 8A or 8B.

I have watched countless youtubes of people both sandbagging, and just building up an army of mediums and APCs, but I am not even getting close!!

I manage to get a couple guard towers up, and by then usually the first airstrike hits and either kills or seriously hurts my harvester. If it lives, it dies shortly after to infantry fire.

I am determined to beat all missions on hard and get that achievement, but man this is trying me.
The grenadiers are just god mode.

I really have not much more "pointers" than i already mentioned. I just can repeat myself by saying that it is in fact the hardest mission of Tiberian Dawn (8B Nod, in my opinion). Not long after i beat it they came up with a patch to make it easier/fairer. There is also a mod that changes the values of hard as if you choose normal.

But no matter what, there are so many factors of luck and cheese involved that it is not even fun anymore after a few trys. I ultimately won by sneaking in some infantry/engineers in their backdoor after i stabilized, with the same helicoper you get at the start. so i could stop the endless flow by overtaking the construction yard etc.

Here again some "pointers":

- set your game speed slider to the slowest to give you time to react and plan out in advance
- use the sandbag abuse as soon as possible
- try to avoid/get lucky with the completely bonkers airstrikes that come in regulary (spread units)

[Vanessaira]

A YouTuber named Stu has some pretty crazy walk throughs of all the missions. Their speed run through Nod 8 is rather crazy.

[^1Romanov77]

No need to abuse sandbags.

The ai has very simple and predictable routines.

Build a single Sam site anywhere to divert air strikes from your harvesters.

Against grenadiers swarms, you just need to get them aggroed by some turrets and then send 1or 2 flame guys on their flanks while they focus on the turrets (repair them while they are under attack).

[Nightwolfnl]

You don't have access to turrets in either of the Misson 8's since you need to sell Nod's CY.

[^1Romanov77]

Nguyên văn bởi Nightwolfnl:

You don't have access to turrets in either of the Misson 8's since you need to sell Nod's CY.

Sorry, I meant the GDI machinegun posts or whatever are those called.

[Nightwolfnl]

Ah, okay. Yeah, the guard tower can be nice distractions for that purpose.