Command & Conquer™ Remastered Collection

Command & Conquer™ Remastered Collection

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SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:18pm
Anyone else getting AWFUL stutter (like 1-3 fps) on Red Alert? -----FIX IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!
I played through Tiberium Dawn and ,,, there were a few frame rate spikes.. but for the most part it ran just fine.
But Red Alert - Is totally unplayable for me.
Get's worse when things are busy on screen ---- Oil barrels exploding really messes it up. And I can lose several seconds of gameplay before I see an updated screen/frame.

(FML, this game is 20~ years old, and I have a gaming rig)
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Two things I did that fixed it:
Installed on SSD + Changed Nvidia conrol panel settings to 'peformance prefered' instead of 'optimal power'
Last edited by SnoW; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:56pm
Originally posted by el helicoptero:
Yes, it is under investigation, but probably texture streaming issue. (4k textures) If you have an SSD you can install there, and problem solved. If you have not, then you must wait for the patch.
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el helicoptero Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:20pm 
Yes, it is under investigation, but probably texture streaming issue. (4k textures) If you have an SSD you can install there, and problem solved. If you have not, then you must wait for the patch.
SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:21pm 
Ah, I see. Thanks very much el helicoptero.
RobBobBrah Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:22pm 
You are not alone, I came here to complain precisely about that. What an embarrassment, how can you be a multi-billion dollar company and be so pathetically incompetent? They're straight up losers.
Alio Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:22pm 
Not having any issues on my 2013-2014 PC. 3770k @ 4.5ghz, 16GB 1866mhz, and GTX 980. Game is installed on RAID 0 HDD setup.

Game runs at a super smooth consistent framerate.

If you have an Nvidia GPU make sure you have Maximum Performance enabled in the NVCP. If you're using GeForce Experience.. that is known to cause problems with many games performance.
Alio Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:25pm 
If you don't use it already, download RivaTuner (RTSS) from Guru3D and set your frame limit, then left click on the text Framerate Limit to switch to Frametime Limit.

Having proper frametime is extremely important to a smooth visual. Use this software for every game you play, it makes a huge difference in many games.
Last edited by Alio; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:25pm
RobBobBrah Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:33pm 
Dude, it even lags when you go back to the original graphics.
el helicoptero Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by GiggleBeard:
Dude, it even lags when you go back to the original graphics.

Yes. The game is installed on an HDD right? Here is some answers from the developers:

"Here’s what we know so far:

The stuttering seems to happen most often in the first playthrough of early missions, or when large armies of units are clashing during open battles or base attacks
The stuttering seems worst if it’s the first playthrough after restarting your computer
The stuttering doesn’t seem to happen as much (or at all) if you’re in the legacy graphics mode
Early reports show the issue is much more prevalent if the game is installed on a standard HDD versus a SDD
These data points lead us to believe the issue is tied to something like texture loading, as the game attempts to load the remastered textures for the first time during a playthrough."
SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
Cheers Alio, I actually had it on 'optimal power' ^^ -- I always thought that meant 'powerful' lol. Have now fixed that.

Does RivaTuner work well with Nvidia - no perfomance impact or conflicts?

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@gigglebeard, yeah re-reading my first post is a bit hillarious. 2020 --- guys how do I get RedAlert to run on my computer.
(But!!! anyone reading this ---------- It's F'ing amazing this remaster, do yourself a favour and get off the fence)
Last edited by SnoW; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:40pm
Alio Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by GiggleBeard:
Dude, it even lags when you go back to the original graphics.

Like I said, I'm having 0 issues.. and I have a relatively older system then most. I've tested the game on my 60hz, 120hz, 144hz and 1080p/4k.

Try my tips above. This game should have no issues on any modern PC.
Alio Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Sn ow man:
Cheers Alio, I actually had it on 'optimal power' ^^ -- I always thought that meant 'powerful' lol. Have now fixed that.

Does RivaTuner work well with Nvidia - no perfomance impact or conflicts?

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@gigglebeard, yeah re-reading my first post is a bit hillarious. 2020 --- guys how do I get RedAlert to run on my computer.

RivaTuner is an essential program IMO. Use it for every game. If you are using a HDD make sure you defrag the HDD using a program like Smart Defrag. If you are on an SSD then no need to fix anything there.

If you are using a single HDD for gaming in 2020 it's time to upgrade to RAID 0 HDD setup or SSD. RAID 0 HDD is the best price/performance/capacity ratio. You can buy 2x 1TB WD Blacks for $120 and get 2TB of near SSD like speed for gaming. Almost every Intel motherboard has a built in RAID controller to do this.
Last edited by Alio; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:42pm
SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:43pm 
Nice tips Alio, I will download Rivatuner now.
My HDD is a single WD Red, not the best for gaming... and I've never de-fragged it.
I try and use my SSD for games but it's not very big.
I used to have a WD Black - but it was way too noisy. Even my WD Red irritates me sometimes, I'm very sensitive to electronic noise.

The rest of my rig is: I7-4790k + 1070ti + 16gb DDR3
Plenty good enough.

I have recently discovered how good frame capping is. It is really essential for a smooth frame rate, I have no idea exactly why... but it's certainly a thing.
Last edited by SnoW; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:46pm
SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:44pm 
I have just swapped the installation folder over to my SSD. And enabled NVIDIA 'performance max mode'
Will let you know
SnoW Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:57pm 
It worked like a dream! Thankyou so much Alio and El helicoptero
It's buttery smooth now.
I have not capped the FPS, I am not using V-sync. Playing Red alert at 144fps <3
Using default settings 'out of the box'

You made my night!, and now I know what I'm doing for the next 48 hours :D
Last edited by SnoW; Jun 7, 2020 @ 2:59pm
CMDRZOD Jun 7, 2020 @ 3:00pm 
I love playing RA with tech level 1 and using massive troop groups to take the map in skirmishes against the AI. Using this type of skirmish is unplayable almost. The mouse is frozen on the screen every few seconds.

To be honest I'm not really impressed with this remake. I played 1000's of hours of RA when it originally released. The screen feels too zoomed in, options in skirmish were removed like tech level when not using bases, and the constant stutter during skirmishes, especially at higher unit counts.

My rig
i7 6950x 10 core OC 4.4Ghz
32GB DDR4 3200Mhz
1080ti OC
4k Samsung TV for display
Win 10 x64 1909
4x 4TB WD RAID0 where game is installed. OS on Intel 750 1.2TB PCIE SSD.

Alio Jun 7, 2020 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Sn ow man:
It worked like a dream! Thankyou so much Alio and El helicoptero

You made my night!, and now I know what I'm doing for the next 48 hours :D

Glad it helped, make sure you download Smart Defrag from Iobit, keep that HDD clean! Smart Defrag will put the most used/important files on the HDD platter in a matter that is fastest to read.

Modern WD Blacks do not make any noise BTW. I'm also very sensitive to sound and I've never heard anything coming from them in my Corsair Air 540, which is an open air styled case.

Another option is to disable Intel Speed Step in your BIOS. This ramps the CPU speeds up and down to lower power consumption. It can also negatively impact a games performance.. think of a car accelerating and braking.. it's not instantaneous and the slowdown effect is noticeable in the framerates.

As long as you have good cooling, you can disable speed step so your CPU is always running at its maximum potential. This does not increase power consumption when your CPU is idle, so no worries about disabling this feature. It's just a way for massive corporations to cut down on energy consumption.. it's not a necessary feature for home computers.
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