RA2 doesn't need a remaster.

[DarkSim]

Why are there people whining about RA2?
RA2 is already perfect, it runs on modern hardware and the cartoony graphics have aged really well and still retains its charm. There are no huge bugs/glitches that need to be fixed either. The cutscenes still look good.

Tell me exactly what needs to be changed about RA2..? Because I don't get it.
Same goes for the Generals crowd (which isn't a real C&C game..). If you want an improved Generals go download the Shockwave or Contra mod. The kids whining about Generals are the worst in here. It's like they never played any other (real) C&C game.

The only case can be made for Tiberian Sun - which was rushed and features were cut out that were intended to be in the final game, it also has a notorious glitch where you can build a structure anywhere in the map. TS could benefit from a remaster that restores all the features that were cut out because of EA's meddling. Renegade is also a very glitchy and broken game running on an archaic bad engine (W3DHub).

tl;dr: You don't need remaster something that is nearly flawless. Remaster games that actually need it like TD, RA, TS and Ren.

[EXile1A]

Agreeing with the Tiberian Sun part.

The Main argument that 'RA2 doesn't need a remaster' I disagree with.

I would love to see the game get a fresh coat of pain and have it get upscaled to 4K along with the QOL improvements like running normally on a modern system without patches or compatibility modes, a zoom function or perhaps the simple ability to alt+tab.

I can get the main game running, with a graphics patch to 1440p but even then it likes to bug out. Yuri's Revenge is more of a trouble. I can't get it to work properly as soon as I load the game the screen goes purple and has more artifacts than the warehouse at the end of Raiders.

If they do remaster these games, it will take 2 or 3 years (First TS or bundled together). That will put the game well over the 20 years old. It fully deserves a remaster at that point.

[Paladin]

Originally posted by EXile1A:

Agreeing with the Tiberian Sun part.

The Main argument that 'RA2 doesn't need a remaster' I disagree with.

I would love to see the game get a fresh coat of pain and have it get upscaled to 4K along with the QOL improvements like running normally on a modern system without patches or compatibility modes, a zoom function or perhaps the simple ability to alt+tab.

I can get the main game running, with a graphics patch to 1440p but even then it likes to bug out. Yuri's Revenge is more of a trouble. I can't get it to work properly as soon as I load the game the screen goes purple and has more artifacts than the warehouse at the end of Raiders.

If they do remaster these games, it will take 2 or 3 years (First TS or bundled together). That will put the game well over the 20 years old. It fully deserves a remaster at that point.

+1

Money talks and EA knows that alot of fans want a remaster of Red Alert II. However it doesn't mean they will do it. It really depends on their sale for this current remaster. It is a test of sorts to measure how much c&c as its genre is worth. Has it died out or is there still money to be made...

[Nyerguds]

It'd be a nice excuse to finally declare the game freeware, like the previous three :p

[HE1NZ]

Remaster is not supposed to add any cut features from the game. It's an update. AoE 2 didn't need a remaster (especially since it already had one), but it got one nevertheless and it's incredible. TS and RA2 had the potential to look beautiful and fresh.

[Paradox101]

Whether you need it or not, a remaster will be very welcome.
I believe that children are so upset, because they do not know how to wait, they are always suffering for the future.
Calm people, if this remastered sells well, we may see others. I am one that I really want one of the tiberium sun, but I am not disturbing others on the forum.

They want to support, whoever sees more remastered, buy this and stop pissing. Guys keep sending spam from generals, guys, it could be and it could be.

I would not expect anything from EA, it was a miracle to appear this remaster of the first C and C, so it is waiting. I don't know if it will take another year, 2 maybe 5 years for us to see something more.

Buy or not buy, it's that simple. What the company understands is numbers. In the end, the rights of the games belong to EA.

[crabhead]

people want ra2 because
they cant run it on modern hardware

[Nyerguds]

Originally posted by HE1NZ:

Remaster is not supposed to add any cut features from the game.

I dunno. I activated the previously-unused Nod score screen and map screen music in my C&C95 patch, and people really appreciated that. So cut features can be fun to add, if they don't affect the actual gameplay :)

But yea, TS had unfinished features like the dropship loadout that were really just starting to bloat the game. We don't need those back; they ended up not developing the game in that direction, meaning the missions are also not developed to use the feature.

[wadprime]

Originally posted by Nyerguds:

Originally posted by HE1NZ:

Remaster is not supposed to add any cut features from the game.

I dunno. I activated the previously-unused Nod score screen and map screen music in my C&C95 patch, and people really appreciated that. So cut features can be fun to add, if they don't affect the actual gameplay :)

But yea, TS had unfinished features like the dropship loadout that were really just starting to bloat the game. We don't need those back; they ended up not developing the game in that direction, meaning the missions are also not developed to use the feature.

It's actually my hope that if/when we get the TS remaster, they'll go back and add features like that in full. For TD/RA1 I understand the desire to be as true to the original games as possible, but for TS/RA2 (mostly TS) I would love if they went more for a remake, rather than a pure remaster.

[HE1NZ]

Originally posted by Nyerguds:

Originally posted by HE1NZ:

Remaster is not supposed to add any cut features from the game.

I dunno. I activated the previously-unused Nod score screen and map screen music in my C&C95 patch, and people really appreciated that. So cut features can be fun to add, if they don't affect the actual gameplay :)

But yea, TS had unfinished features like the dropship loadout that were really just starting to bloat the game. We don't need those back; they ended up not developing the game in that direction, meaning the missions are also not developed to use the feature.

Can you share some footage of that?

I agree that some optional deleted stuff is cool, I'm just saying it's not in the scope of a remaster to "finish Tiberian Sun" as OP wishes for some reason. Base content should be true to the original. But if there's some deleted missions devs can restore that would be awesome.

[Nyerguds]

Originally posted by HE1NZ:

Can you share some footage of that?

Here ya go.

https://i.imgur.com/YQn4NNB.png

It was supposed to give you the ability to tweak which units you wanted to start a mission with. Some modders / hackers apparently managed to reactivate it and made a mission that had it working as it was supposed to. I never saw it at work myself though.

The dropship would drop the units off at a Dropship Bay, somewhat like how the Starport in Dune games works. The dropship bay building actually exists in the game.

Wiki entry, including the concept art and in-game appearance:
https://cnc.gamepedia.com/Dropship_bay

Several fragments of a video showing a dropship landing on the dropship bay and unloading an MCV exist too. I stitched those together, a long time ago, but only a small portion of it has sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OIjmQnF2ug

[Amika]

What? I am buy CnC Red alert remastered, becouse i want see remastered red alert 2! Red alert 1 doesn't matter fo me

[猫.]

who needs a remastered red alert 2 when you have mental omega (a mod for c&c ra2 yr)

[NOBLE SIX]

I'd take a remaster that added either pixel perfect scaling or 4K sprites.

Red Alert 2 and TibSun with their lighting would look incredible at 4K tbqh.

[Sobrio]

We need RA2 remaster because we want it.

[NovaPrime1985]

thank god you arent making any business decisions regarding a RA2 remaster.
and wtf do you mean it doesnt need one? its dated as hell damn near 20 years now since it first dropped, it definitely could use a fresh new coat of paint, quality of life improvements especially to the side bar, unit models getting tightened up and so much more dude.