Why no Tiberian Sun?

[GamerCH]

The answer is simple. Tiberian Sun is to this day one of the most advanced RTS games ever made. Just think of all the mechanics. As many may remember, TS was never finished. It has so much unused potential, so many mechanics that are hidden or barely touched upon.

Sadly, releasing it unfinished was AFAIK not a bad thing as, Westwood got overzealous. With all the money they had, they wanted to make a game that was way bigger and way more advanced than what was feasible.

At least thats the explanation from Louis Castle in TFD intervew if I remember correctly.

[GamerCH]

Units had a weight, this would make the ice break, they also had a physics engine going on according to their weight. You can see it to some degree with hover tanks.

In the demo the Dropship feature is still present. You had a group of units that would come with you from battle to battle and gain experience.

But the craziest thing was, guns were supposed to have accuracy dependant on visibility. So you would place units near light sources such as lightposts and fires to ensure that they hit targets.

In the settings there is even a wind, yes, there is wind, I felt like a true god when I found it. being able to control the wind in that little matrix haha.

[Provider]

Maybe in future? Depends on how this remaster gonna sell.

[GamerCH]

I honestly doubt it because remaking TS is hell. Heck even just touching TS is hell. The code is a mess and it has many problems.

For example, you can kill your own units to earn XP. Then there's all the stuff the Hyperpatch attempted to fix. Disruptors and so forth. RA and TD are far simpler games, also graphically.

I am honestly not sure if they can. Would be easier to just remake the game in SAGE engine or perhaps the Petroglyph engine.

[metal_hamster]

No other games are here because they announced no other games. People on this forum have some sort of intelligence issues. They can't read and have serious entitlement issues.

[Cabalius]

I am sure all this was mentioned in a interview video where they talked about the Hells and Points when they made TS. But the tech was amazing, the stuff they came out with, for it's time, it was fascinating.

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by metal_hamster:

No other games are here because they announced no other games. People on this forum have some sort of intelligence issues. They can't read and have serious entitlement issues.

They won't announce any other games until they know the remasters work in the sales history. If they do, the chances of the additional games being remastered may be questioned. Hence why it's only the first two in the series.

[GamerCH]

Yeah it was gonna have a lot of mechanics that you can find here

https://store.steampowered.com/app/944010/SWINE_HD_Remaster/

An RTT of roughly the same time, also Ground Control. With Tiberian Sun they really wanted to venture off into true 3D. But such a step takes time. They got it right with Generals and dare I say Renegade thou.

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by Ivanka 46th:

Yeah it was gonna have a lot of mechanics that you can find here

https://store.steampowered.com/app/944010/SWINE_HD_Remaster/

An RTT of roughly the same time, also Ground Control. With Tiberian Sun they really wanted to venture off into true 3D. But such a step takes time. They got it right with Generals and dare I say Renegade thou.

And the only studio as of yet who ever managed to pull that off, during the 90s, was Bungie, who managed to make a 3D environment, with 2D assets. First time in the making, all because they were trying out tech before hitting Halo.

[GamerCH]

Which Bungie game are you refering to?

[(Clever Name Here)]

They said if all goes well they might do the other games as well. I'd die for a remastered TS.

[GamerCH]

Originally posted by Bureikou:

They said if all goes well they might do the other games as well. I'd die for a remastered TS.

Yeah well ofc they say that. Easier said than done. I still weep for Generals 2 and End of Nations.

But yes if this is a success in sales they'll keep making em. Will buy it soon, end of the month, need money xDDD

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by Ivanka 46th:

Which Bungie game are you refering to?

If I recall, Myth was the first game to have a 3D environment on a top down scale, as Bungie was dabbling in the Real time Tactics genre, where the game also had 2D assets in said 3D world, and it was around 1997 that the first Myth game was made. Which in turn, gradually caused them to work on multiple versions of Myth, until they've given it over to Eidos, where Bungie later focused on Halo.

[DeDarkwood]

Tiberian sun is my first command&conquer game and I still think it's the best of c&c. The atmosphere is freaking phenomenal. It has that 90's scifi apocalypse atmosphere. To my understanding later westwood games are coming as remake collection number 2? Correct me if im wrong but i remember reading something that they start out with the very first and progress to newer ones.

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by DeDarkwood:

Tiberian sun is my first command&conquer game and I still think it's the best of c&c. The atmosphere is freaking phenomenal. It has that 90's scifi apocalypse atmosphere. To my understanding later westwood games are coming as remake collection number 2? Correct me if im wrong but i remember reading something that they start out with the very first and progress to newer ones.

Start with the first TibWar, being Tiberian Dawn, then TibWar 2 and it's expansion, being Tiberian Sun and it's expansion.

Red Alert to hopefully Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge.

We may even see, if we're super lucky, the Dune games.

[teac5]

Originally posted by ❅ƑɌǪŞƬƘǪǰĄƘ❅:

We may even see, if we're super lucky, the Dune games.

Pretty much impossible. They don’t have the Dune license anymore. As far as I know Funcom is allowed to make Dune games nowadays.