Silent Patch + Downgraders (SA)

[-3xA'Lu©κy the disappearing act]

For the respective GTA III and GTA VC discussions, please use the following 2 links:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/12100/discussions/0/34096318964714852/ - GTA III
http://steamcommunity.com/app/12110/discussions/0/34096318964657113/ - GTA VC


What is Silent Patch?

Silent Patch is an unofficial patch that fixes all the remaining issues with this game whilst bringing back features that were only found in the console releases as well. In my opinion: it's now a necessity for any player and ultimately gives you the best San Andreas experience possible. It works best with any PC version except for the "NewSteam" version. A changelog for it can be found here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/12120/discussions/0/34096318964479523/#c34096318964543204


How do I install Silent Patch?

To install it: simply go to link 1, expand the box below the "Silent Patch" heading and click the "Download" button, and then expand the box below the "Silent’s ASI Loader " heading and click the "Download" button there as well. After that, unzip Silent Patch and then drag and drop the "SilentPatchSA.asi" and "SilentPatchSA.ini" files into your game's main folder. Lastly, unzip Silent's ASI Loader this time and then drag and drop the "vorbisHooked.dll" and "vorbisFile.dll" files into your game's main folder. Once all that's done you can optionally apply the Fixed Vehicles pack from link 3, which is nice to have and works great alongside Silent Patch. Instructions for it can be found here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/12120/discussions/0/34096318964479523/#c34096318964543204

1. https://cookieplmonster.github.io/mods/gta-sa/#silentpatch
2. http://gtaforums.com/topic/725635-wipsagta-san-andreas-fixed-vanilla-vehicles/ (not 100% complete at this time)


Should I downgrade?

That’s entirely up to you. San Andreas had previously only received one official patch (patch 1.01) and it limited modding severely. This was due to the "Hot Coffee mod" which controversially restored partially-cut content that wasn't supposed to be available to players. On November 7 2014, the Steam release was exclusively updated with another official patch (labelled by modders as NewSteam r1). On December 9 2014, the Steam release was updated with yet another official patch (NewSteam r2).

Rather than tell you what version is the best, I’ll simply list the pros and cons of each version with the following table:

	Version 1.0 (original release)	Version 1.01 (patched original release)	Version 2.0 (DVD re-release with 1.01 patch)	Version 3.0 (Steam release)	NewSteam r1	NewSteam r2
Controller support	no (unless you grab Silent or Deji's GInput mod)	no	no	no	yes (x360/x1 controller support)	yes (x360/x1 controller support)
Full soundtrack	yes	yes	yes	yes	no (18 songs were removed)	no (18 songs were removed)
Fully moddable	yes	no	no	no	no (partially moddable)	no (partially moddable)
Most resolutions supported	no (16:9 is not supported but Silent Patch and widescreen mods will correct this)	yes	yes	no (16:9 is not supported but Silent Patch and widescreen mods will correct this)	no (5:4 and 16:9 is not supported but Silent Patch and widescreen mods will correct this)	no (5:4 is not supported but Silent Patch and widescreen mods will correct this)

Downgrader 3.0 or 1.0?

Not all of Silent Patch's functions will work unless you downgrade to either version 3.0 or 1.0. 3.0 will revert your game to how it was before the NewSteam patches (this means the game will be less moddable and not all of Silent Patch's features will work) while 1.0 allows for the user to auto-install essential mods from within the downgrader program itself and will downgrade your game completely (there's even a button that will allow for you to install these mods without downgrading). Only use one downgrader!!
NOTE: after downgrading you will have TWO .exe files in your game's main folder. gta-sa.exe is named like the normal Steam shortcut (so you can launch the game from the Steam library and the game will launch from here with no issues) whilst gta_sa.exe is the name of the shortcut the non-Steam version of GTA SA always had (and is there in case you need it or for mods that require a gta_sa.exe file be present). It honestly shouldn't really matter which .exe you launch the game from but if you want the Steam overlay, launch the game from the Steam library.

3.0 downgrader links (choose and use only one):
http://dl1.rockstarnexus.com/gta/sa/SA_12-9-14_Steam_3.0_DG.exe (675 MB)
https://gzwn.net/gta/sa/SA_12-9-14_Steam_DG.exe (675 MB)
{ССЫЛКА УДАЛЕНА}http://www.mediafire.com/download/i60lc800xqsad6b/SA_12-9-14_Steam_DG.exe (675 MB)
https://mega.co.nz/#!y1lWnaAA!wz2IdYvQD7ex3qBxPJ0cd63DB4MMoB_I7kFG04Rqviw (675 MB)

1.0 downgrader links - also works for v2 copies of this game (choose and use only one):
https://services.rockstarnexus.com/sadowngrade/SADowngrade_1-3-1_Full.exe (522 MB)
https://services.rockstarnexus.com/sadowngrade/latest.exe (2.1 MB - downloads downgrader files for you)


Controller support?

Both methods of controller support require you using the 1.0 downgrader first (directly above). Once your game is downgraded, you'll need to grab "Silent's ASI Loader" from link 1 (if you haven't already) and put its contents into your game's main folder and then make a choice between links 1a and 1b. I personally recommend link 1a as it's more recent and seems to do a better job.

1. https://cookieplmonster.github.io/mods/gta-sa/#asiloader (expand the box below the "Silent's ASI Loader" heading and click the "Download button")
1a. https://cookieplmonster.github.io/mods/gta-sa/#ginput - Silent's GInput (expand the box below the "Ginput" heading and click the "Download" button)
1b. http://gtag.gtagaming.com/mods/107-ginput/ - Deji's GInput


Some extra information on savegames and frame limiter bugs!

• Usually savegames only work on the version of the game that they were made on. If you made a save on v 2.0/3.0, don't expect it to work on a v 1.0 installation of San Andreas. It's best to start a new game if you can (especially if you weren't that far into the game) but if you really want to continue your save game, you can upload your save on here and this website does all the work for you (do note it only converts v2 saves to v1 and v1 saves to v2):
http://hmvartak.freeiz.com/SCMConverter/conv.htm

• GTA III, GTA: Vice City and GTA: San Andreas should all have the in-game frame limiter (Options --> Display Setup --> Advanced) enabled, otherwise you'll run into odd bugs. In addition to physics-related bugs and cars aceelerating/braking incredibly fast that you'll experience in GTA III and GTA: Vice City, you'll also notice CJ can't swim underwater and exercise minigames are far too difficult in San Andreas with the frame limiter disabled. So do yourself a favour and enable the frame limiter. Normally the frame limiter locks GTA III and GTA Vice City to 30 FPS whilst San Andreas is locked to 25 FPS, but with Silent Patch applied San Andreas properly locks at 30 FPS.


Who do I thank?

Silent - for his Silent Patch and GInput. He can be found on Steam and gtaforums.
Aztecas_5, StrafeBolt, Wesser and nyolc8 - for the gtaforums-hosted Fixed Vehicles pack.
Jack Thompson/gamerzworld - for his 3.0 and 1.0 downgrader. He can be found on Steam and gtaforums.
Deji - for his GInput. He can be found on gtaforums.
The rest of the modding community - for keeping San Andreas alive all this time.



Thank you.

[Ryu Fireheart]

There is any hint to make easier to replace the files on gta3.img files? I only know how to replace things 1-1... So replacing all takes some time...
Also, the cars will only be clean by rain? Cause i had a dirty Tornado and after using the spray shop it was still dirty.

EDIT: the game crashes when i use the jump button o.O

[Reddy]

Автор сообщения: -3xA'Lu©κy

Автор сообщения: Mushy93

How do I enstall those exactly?

I looked around in the files for SA but couldn't find anything to overwright.

There's 6 mods in that compilation.

Vehicles San Andreas has 3 folders:cutscene.img, data, gta3.img. For cutscene.img and gta3.img you need a tool called imgtool which you can grab off the web. That'll allow you to open San Andreas' .img files and add files to them (i.e. the contents of "cutscene.img" folder and "gta3.img" folder). The "data" folder just requires you pasting the handling.cfg in San Andreas' data folder and overwriting the existing file.

Vehicles Lights Fix just needs the "Release" sub-folder's .asi file. Just copy and paste that .asi file into the main San Andreas directory and providing you have an Asi Loader (Asi Loader 1.3 that you need to run Silent Patch is perfect) it should work just fine.

As for the other 4 folders: you'll need to use imgtool again and open San Andreas' "gta3.img" file. From there, add the 4 .txd/.dff files to San Andreas' "gta3.img" file.


[EDIT]:

http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=63 <-- that's the link for IMGTool v 2.0.

You do all that after I've already manually done it without telling anyone that you were going to try to do it...

:D YAY 2 hours wasted for me. xD

[Sticky]

if you downgrade to 1.0 just use modloader

[nulldata]

Автор сообщения: Ryu Fireheart

There is any hint to make easier to replace the files on gta3.img files? I only know how to replace things 1-1... So replacing all takes some time...
Also, the cars will only be clean by rain? Cause i had a dirty Tornado and after using the spray shop it was still dirty.

EDIT: the game crashes when i use the jump button o.O

Use Mod Loader. http://gtaforums.com/topic/669520-sarel-mod-loader/

[Ryu Fireheart]

Автор сообщения: Jack Thompson

Автор сообщения: Ryu Fireheart

There is any hint to make easier to replace the files on gta3.img files? I only know how to replace things 1-1... So replacing all takes some time...
Also, the cars will only be clean by rain? Cause i had a dirty Tornado and after using the spray shop it was still dirty.

EDIT: the game crashes when i use the jump button o.O

Use Mod Loader. http://gtaforums.com/topic/669520-sarel-mod-loader/

Oooh thanks alot

[Ryu Fireheart]

I figured out what was crashing my game, its the vehlightsfix.asi. I dont know if i messed up during install so i did in this order:
-Full game install
-Applied the downgrader patch
-vorbisfile.dll and vorbishooked.dll on game folder
-silentpatchSA.asi and silendpatchSA.ini on game folder
-vehilightsfix.asi on game folder
-handling.cfg on data folder
-Replaced the files in cutscene.img with the fixed ones
-Replaced only 1 file (just for test i replaced only the fixed tornado.txt) in gta3.img

I don't know if i had skipped any step or file to make this vehlightsfix.asi crash my game...

Also, the previous no dirt patch from rockstar did not solve the dirty on some vehicles. I found this info years ago while browsing some mods on gtaforums:

Cars that won't get clean
Blade
Broadway
Camper (100% sure about it)
Elegy
Flash
Jester
Remington
Savanna
Stratum
Sultan
Tornado (100% sure about it)
Uranus
Rhino (I am not sure if it has natural rust or its dirty in some parts...)
S.W.A.T (100% sure about it)
All law enforcement vehicles? Maybe any car that cant get into pay 'n' spray shops like ambulance and fire truck (Im not sure, but some may be able to get clean by rain)

An interesting thing is that some of this cars are the ones that can get 3 special paint jobs on costumization jobs. Maybe there is something related to this issue...

Sorry for my english ;p

[Silent]

Автор сообщения: Ryu Fireheart

An interesting thing is that some of this cars are the ones that can get 3 special paint jobs on costumization jobs. Maybe there is something related to this issue...

Yes, that's the cause. And I think it's a design choice, too, as 1.01 did not fix it too. Nor they can get clean on PS2.

[Ryu Fireheart]

Автор сообщения: Silent

Автор сообщения: Ryu Fireheart

An interesting thing is that some of this cars are the ones that can get 3 special paint jobs on costumization jobs. Maybe there is something related to this issue...

Yes, that's the cause. And I think it's a design choice, too, as 1.01 did not fix it too. Nor they can get clean on PS2.

hmm, would be nice if this Aztecas vehicles fixes were integrated with a no dirt mod for all cars of the game since we cant clean them all. Thanks anyway

[-3xA'Lu©κy the disappearing act]

Автор сообщения: WhiteNewt

Автор сообщения: -3xA'Lu©κy

There's 6 mods in that compilation.

Vehicles San Andreas has 3 folders:cutscene.img, data, gta3.img. For cutscene.img and gta3.img you need a tool called imgtool which you can grab off the web. That'll allow you to open San Andreas' .img files and add files to them (i.e. the contents of "cutscene.img" folder and "gta3.img" folder). The "data" folder just requires you pasting the handling.cfg in San Andreas' data folder and overwriting the existing file.

Vehicles Lights Fix just needs the "Release" sub-folder's .asi file. Just copy and paste that .asi file into the main San Andreas directory and providing you have an Asi Loader (Asi Loader 1.3 that you need to run Silent Patch is perfect) it should work just fine.

As for the other 4 folders: you'll need to use imgtool again and open San Andreas' "gta3.img" file. From there, add the 4 .txd/.dff files to San Andreas' "gta3.img" file.


[EDIT]:

http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=63 <-- that's the link for IMGTool v 2.0.

You do all that after I've already manually done it without telling anyone that you were going to try to do it...

:D YAY 2 hours wasted for me. xD

Sorry :)

[-3xA'Lu©κy the disappearing act]

Автор сообщения: Jack Thompson

Автор сообщения: Ryu Fireheart

There is any hint to make easier to replace the files on gta3.img files? I only know how to replace things 1-1... So replacing all takes some time...
Also, the cars will only be clean by rain? Cause i had a dirty Tornado and after using the spray shop it was still dirty.

EDIT: the game crashes when i use the jump button o.O

Use Mod Loader. http://gtaforums.com/topic/669520-sarel-mod-loader/

I'm unfamiliar with Mod Loader. Is it much easier to use than IMGTool or just another alternative?

Thanks anyway.

[Silent]

Drag 'n drop is surely easier than replacing files via IMG Tool, which dates back to 2005.

[alexduppy]

This was very helpful, thanks.

[-3xA'Lu©κy the disappearing act]

Автор сообщения: Silent

Drag 'n drop is surely easier than replacing files via IMG Tool, which dates back to 2005.

Wish I knew about that earlier then.

[Reddy]

Автор сообщения: -3xA'Lu©κy

Автор сообщения: Silent

Drag 'n drop is surely easier than replacing files via IMG Tool, which dates back to 2005.

Wish I knew about that earlier then.

Agreed. It seems the GTA modding community is full of these kinds of secrets. :/

[Silent]

Автор сообщения: WhiteNewt

Agreed. It seems the GTA modding community is full of these kinds of secrets. :/

It has a well known topic over at GTAForums. It's not secret at all.

Especially weird since the OP is on GTAF too.