Does anyone use void salts or life salts?

[Ptolemy]

Just curious. It seems like their utility isn't commensurate to how hard they are to produce.

[kaif cenat]

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[blue pawn]

Hope they will be infinite in later patches. Fact that they is used in saved recipes is killing and not worth it at all :P

[Fudge]

infinite salt would make it too much powerfull imo, but the complexity to create the salts are not worth it either ... plus the fact that if you have to use a salt (well, from the 2 currently available), it means you probably made a mistake in your receipe, and as a Master Alchemist, it's NOT tolerable :p

[Burtch2]

it seems atleast for life salt it may be a decent idea to use instead of crystals if you are useing it to skip to the necromancy potion but its hadly efficient at best maybe they will be useful on the later maps they add if there is a base cost to start a potion on those maps

[UnderDoug]

The issue of their scarcity could be largely solved, I think, if the process to create them simply produced more. You get a lot based on the units that the game presents to you, why would you need more than just a pinch in the production of one of a given potion?

[Ptolemy]

It's not just the scarcity, though. Life salts take an absolute age to create, as you have to go through 4 tiers of reagent production on top of the life salts themselves. While I could imagine their effect being useful, I can't imagine it being particularly useful to most people who had reached the point in the game at which they were able to actually produce life salts in the first place, nevermind the fact that their use is limited. The effects of both life salts and void salts feel more to me like something which should be available quite early on and not in such limited quantities. Creating reagents just feels like too much of a major undertaking to then go and use them as ingredients for an undo button.

[Hydargos]

Sometimes, the salts can be useful. You can use less ingredients, because even if the path end in the skulls, the void salt will delete the part of the path which is going there.
As for the life salt, you don't bother to finish a TP with crystal (for ex.) in skulls anymore : just give your potion some HP and keep going.

[Kaii]

The Void Salt can be life-saving if you mess up with your positioning and all ingredients will take you through too many bones, you can use one and erase some of the path, but honestly, if you're in that situation it's way better to just restart and use a better route.

[Ayaoba]

I mean I only use void salts if I’ve made a mistake on a potion that’s too much of a pain to fix—only one time so far. Given that I’ve saved the grand majority of the potions that sell, it’s generally just for really unique potions that I run the risk of needing the salts.

[Puksu]

Life salt is way too expensive, but ive used like 50 void salt in couple recipes.

[Jeck]

Am I bugged? When I make the salts, I get 5000 of them. It's a pretty good deal if you ask me, although I've never had to use it.

[Hydargos]

Originally posted by Jeck:

Am I bugged? When I make the salts, I get 5000 of them. It's a pretty good deal if you ask me, although I've never had to use it.

The salts are used by adding them in the cauldron along other ingredients. But a pinch of salt can use dozen or hundreds of the 5000, depending on how much you put in the recipe. Hence, if you use them frequently, 5000 can be not that much.

[MAD ZAX®]

I think the salts would be more worth using if they weren't saved in the recipe, but that seems overpowered and illogical.

[Charm Quark]

It just takes too long to make the salts, even with all the herbs. You need to put 10 potions total into the machine for void salt, and 44 potions total for life salt. I could not be bothered to keep them in stock if every time I need to make so many potions, then figure out which order to put them into the machines. I even labelled my recipes with a numbering system to make it easier, and it's still a pain to make.

An easy fix could possibly include that the machine does not consume nigredo/ albedo/ citrinitas/ rubedo, so you only need to make one round of potions for each salt. I still think life salt would be overpriced, but at least it wouldn't take so long to process.

[DivineEvil]

I think, and I believe many people will agree with me on that, is that the real problem is how difficult the very first alchemical lab recipes are from the very beginning. A new player can feel accomplished by just coming up with an efficient Q3 recipe for a clean potion, and finding out the required potions for the Nigredo is overwhelming in comparison.

Combine that with the requirements for making the Salts themselves, and you have an obtainable ingredient that is just too much hassle to make for anyone to use it frivolously as part of the potion recipe. It is much more efficient to dilute the potion and/or use an extra ingredient to get somewhere, than to use Salts for the same purpose.