Is there a reward for the archery minigame?

[AlexP]

I'm apparently godawful at it with my highest rank being E. is there a reward for learning to do it better and getting a higher score or is it just for funsies?

[fredfig]

Yes, there is a reward! Kashue's Bow, the best bow in the game. You need to reach rank S.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d085o33u03e4ijb/Rank%20S.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlojq081i41bzbk/Kashue%27s%20Bow.jpg?dl=0

[daniel.close]

I... really don't see myself getting this bow, ever. The expected perfection of the bow to be able to claim this is a bit much, if I must be entirely honest. The developers may want to REALLY tone this down in future updates as it is going to cause nothing but frustration at your game from your players. You're expected to rapidly break targets, some of them spinning and thus not actually getting hit, with minimal arrows used, ricochets, obstacles, the targets speeding up AND dealing with a gravity orb near the end?

No. This is not worth the effort. There are other archery games that have been done in other franchises that are more fair than this. I don't care what stats that bow has on it or if it's the 'best' bow in the game, I'm not about to force myself to spend countless hours doing this. I don't recommend other players bother either while the 'challenge' is anywhere like this.

TL;DR... Developers, fix this. This is not fun or worth it unless you're later going to give us homing arrows to make this challenge REMOTELY doable later down the line.

[fredfig]

Originally posted by daniel.close:

I... really don't see myself getting this bow, ever. The expected perfection of the bow to be able to claim this is a bit much, if I must be entirely honest. The developers may want to REALLY tone this down in future updates as it is going to cause nothing but frustration at your game from your players. You're expected to rapidly break targets, some of them spinning and thus not actually getting hit, with minimal arrows used, ricochets, obstacles, the targets speeding up AND dealing with a gravity orb near the end?

No. This is not worth the effort. There are other archery games that have been done in other franchises that are more fair than this. I don't care what stats that bow has on it or if it's the 'best' bow in the game, I'm not about to force myself to spend countless hours doing this. I don't recommend other players bother either while the 'challenge' is anywhere like this.

TL;DR... Developers, fix this. This is not fun or worth it unless you're later going to give us homing arrows to make this challenge REMOTELY doable later down the line.

After few attempts it is already possible to observe how to progress in this challenge.

First of all you need to divide it into phases and improve each one progressively.

Second, you need to determine certain fixed points to aim and leave the chance of accuracy for the timing of the shot, avoiding having to make sudden changes of aim.

My advice is to try this as a challenge, as everything else in this game is very easy.

[Izumi]

I referenced this video and finally got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Kw49YciO0&ab_channel=Christian

[BlackCat7788]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMosVZAj91c&feature=youtu.be

[Vonteal]

Originally posted by BlackCat7788:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMosVZAj91c&feature=youtu.be

BROKEN lol. Cool find, but I can see that getting patched.

[lordanthrax]

Originally posted by Vonteal:

BROKEN lol. Cool find, but I can see that getting patched.

Until then...FREE BOW! YOINK!

[Ren Ookami]

Why would you even need the best bow of the game if you can already reach perfection? For bragging rights, of course! That's wy such challenges exists, people who are cpable of getting such reward usually don't even need them... xD

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Ren Ookami:

Why would you even need the best bow of the game if you can already reach perfection? For bragging rights, of course! That's wy such challenges exists, people who are cpable of getting such reward usually don't even need them... xD

Yeah, it's actually kind of a backwards design choice, one that's been used pretty much since gaming started -- i.e. better rewards for better play. In reality, the OPPOSITE should be true, instead of saying "oh you get something OP as a reward for being good", it should be "here's something better to help you with your struggle" -- and I'm not talking about 'oh you can just skip levels in Mario if you want' type stuff, but rather for instance in the PSX game Alundra, if you die enough you can get the best sword in the game, It's meant to help you add that extra DPS....but you still have to not get hit too much, and use your abilities or you'll still die.

[Mazzle Dazzle]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Ren Ookami:

Why would you even need the best bow of the game if you can already reach perfection? For bragging rights, of course! That's wy such challenges exists, people who are cpable of getting such reward usually don't even need them... xD

Yeah, it's actually kind of a backwards design choice, one that's been used pretty much since gaming started -- i.e. better rewards for better play. In reality, the OPPOSITE should be true, instead of saying "oh you get something OP as a reward for being good", it should be "here's something better to help you with your struggle" -- and I'm not talking about 'oh you can just skip levels in Mario if you want' type stuff, but rather for instance in the PSX game Alundra, if you die enough you can get the best sword in the game, It's meant to help you add that extra DPS....but you still have to not get hit too much, and use your abilities or you'll still die.

Totally disagree. You earn the right to break the game with an OP item since you already broke it by having crazy skill. Now you can play the game like a lunatic and just for fun. Its also the way real life works, you get better things for reaching greater achievements.

[Vivia (shi/hir) ☣]

Wonder if it'd be worth getting during a speedrun. Invest a bit of time to get a bow that'll make very quick work of enemies.

[iriyap]

Can confirm that the full release version still has the glitch. Simply shoot 0 arrows and you get S Rank by default. The bow you receive as the reward is not that amazing though (SPD 4 ATK 34), easily outclassed by many late game bows. But it's pretty powerful if you do the glitch early on.

Indra Bow (SPD 3 ATK 47) seems to be the best bow in the game overall. It's in the bottom right corner of the map, behind the cyan door.

[Drakan Wolf]

Originally posted by iriyap:

Can confirm that the full release version still has the glitch. Simply shoot 0 arrows and you get S Rank by default. The bow you receive as the reward is not that amazing though (SPD 4 ATK 34), easily outclassed by many late game bows. But it's pretty powerful if you do the glitch early on.

Indra Bow (SPD 3 ATK 47) seems to be the best bow in the game overall. It's in the bottom right corner of the map, behind the cyan door.

Seconded... while this is a powerful bow early on (and that glitch is totally speedrunning gold), Indra and even Apollon (SPD 4 ATK 40) easily outclass it.

[Vonteal]

Yeah, Indra and Apollon outclass Kashue's Bow, however, the bow challenge is only half way through the game and will last for some time as other bows up until finding Indra or Apollon don't quite compare.

[RumDumpster]

I will confirm as of Aug 13, 2022, that the 'shoot 0 arrows for 'S' rank' glitch has been patched and will give you a score of ZERO points.

Like a Dark Souls fan would say, 'GIT GUD'. Much to my chagrin. There is a video posted above, linked again HERE ( https://youtu.be/X-Kw49YciO0 ) to earn it the proper way.

As a hint, if you don't understand how those arrows are getting a second bounce off the back wall, there is a metal plate in two spots. One low, one high.

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