Enshrouded

Enshrouded

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juantumeni Jul 18, 2024 @ 11:07pm
What makes a game "survival"?
I guess I'm confused on what "survival game" means. Google tells me there are 7 main points they share in common but I'm not sure if that's what you all mean when you say it.
When I first started playing Enshrouded I thought it was about survival. A lone person on a blighted planet beset by animals and monsters. I was going to conserve my resources, I didn't know they would respawn. I was glad I didn't have hunger or thirst, those were my big concerns before buying this.
Soon enough I found out I could cut all the trees down and just restart the server, I could run my shroud timer to 3 seconds and restart the server, I'd be home with all my loot. I could run around without looting anything and if I died I didn't even leave a corpse. I could mine ore and gain more experience than clearing a town. And when I was bored w/ gathering and crafting I could roam around looking for trouble.
And I could fly around! At the time if you picked updraft you had infinite flight.
There was red shroud but I understood that was a temporary block that I would overcome with progression.
All these things were positive in my book and I was surviving. So that's what is confusing me. What am I missing?
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grinsekeatzchen Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:43am 
Enshrouded is a survival game.

People who say Enshrouded isn't a survival game, are not confused. Just angry that the game isn't what they imagined. When they can read, they know it's an survival game.
Nerevar Jul 19, 2024 @ 3:39am 
enshrouded is NOT a survival game. end of story. anyone who claims that doesnt not understand what a survival game is.

there is just people who believe that merely beeing able to die to anything makes a game survival.

basically the same people who claim terraria is a survival game claim it for this one.

its just clueless people.

in its current state enshrouded is a 3rd person adventure game with fancy mostly pointless building mechanics.
juantumeni Jul 19, 2024 @ 4:05am 
Nerevar, what would need to be added or subtracted to make it a true survival game? I'm asking because I admit I'm clueless and I don't understand the distinction. Please someone tell me what is lacking.
Bladeheart Jul 19, 2024 @ 4:15am 
If it helps any, looking at the recent 'Short' on the Youtube channel there will be a number of survival options added on the next big update.
grinsekeatzchen Jul 19, 2024 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by juantumeni:
Nerevar, what would need to be added or subtracted to make it a true survival game? I'm asking because I admit I'm clueless and I don't understand the distinction. Please someone tell me what is lacking.

I also would love to know this. Because google, wiki and steam, all check the marks that this IS in fact a Game with survival elements, therefore the tag survival game.
Nerevar Jul 19, 2024 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by juantumeni:
Nerevar, what would need to be added or subtracted to make it a true survival game? I'm asking because I admit I'm clueless and I don't understand the distinction. Please someone tell me what is lacking.

to make it simple :

a survival mechanic is a NEED. something you CANNOT ignore no matter what that happens regardless of where you are. outside in the wilderness or inside your base beeing afk.

like need to drink or eat otherwise you die.

that is the simplest form.

another is protection from cold during nights or heat during day etc.

a hostile enviroment/world that will try to kill you no matter where you currently are.

these are survival mechanics.

they can be simple or more difficult to manage but its essentially a mechanic of a game that you must take care off otherwise you will die sooner or later.


in enshrouded you can simply stand on top of a spire. your base. the starting vault or on a floating plattform and you can stand there forever. youll never die. youre never in any danger. thus it has no actual survival mechanics currently.
grinsekeatzchen Jul 19, 2024 @ 5:11am 
Aka

It's not the survival i imagine in my head. But it's still a survival.
PaPaKat Jul 19, 2024 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Nerevar:
enshrouded is NOT a survival game. end of story. anyone who claims that doesnt not understand what a survival game is.

there is just people who believe that merely beeing able to die to anything makes a game survival.

basically the same people who claim terraria is a survival game claim it for this one.

its just clueless people.

in its current state enshrouded is a 3rd person adventure game with fancy mostly pointless building mechanics.

goiung on this there is no TRUE survivial game out here at all. because things like your talking about ended decades ago when you only had a limited amount of lives , super mario brothers , space invaders , Pac Man...the list can go on for awhile.
also going by what you say games like Conan and Ark which are well known and classified "survival"games are nthye exact same way...you come back everytime with your progress and HAVE to eat and protect yourself from the elements...but you dont start over if you die. thats about the stupidest thing ive ever heard of...THERE IS NO REAL SURVIVAL GAME OUT THERE unless you set the game up with provided ingame options..like Bethesda did with Skyrim. hardly anybody will pick up a game that requires you to start over at the beginning of the game just because YOU DIE. there are some out there but very very few.
towly Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:13am 
a thing can be similar to something and still not be that thing
aka a game that has base building, and food and water etc
but still isnt survival,

cause NON of those things are a requirement for your character to be
they just add benefits, if you do not use any of them the only drawback you get is you dont have them

you will not starve or die of thrist or freeze to death at night if your not in a shelter or near a heat source or any of the other factors that are survival mechanics

*edit*
just to add this is not me WANTING more survival mechanics i am totally fine with the current thing, but the fact is enshrouded is not a survival game
Last edited by towly; Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:18am
Tymon Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:39am 
The game has survival elements. This is an objective thing. But, a full blown survival game? Currently I don't think it is. And that is perfectly fine with me.
Doc✪Hollywood Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:43am 
no fail save / risk free / skill free XP cheating with mining
no auto aiming


to be "survival" it has not to be rock hard, but a certain amount of challenge should be given. The above doesn't belong to a survival game if it makes levelling and fighting a joke.
hyperion Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:08am 
This is not a survival game. It's an action RPG with crafting and building.

Play Subsistence if you want to see a survival game, everything is trying to kill you all of the time. In Enshrouded, you can sit around comfy as can be in your base and nothing will kill you, you don't even have to eat or drink to stay alive, you can craft stuff or even sleep all day, or just do nothing at all.
Last edited by hyperion; Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:12am
Ibellius Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:10am 
The game is very good so far. But to be a genuine survival, it is missing keys points:
1. Character should die if it does not eat.
2. Character should die if it does not sleep.
3. Character should die by illness.
4. Character should die by getting attacked while sleep.

There are many other KEY features that should be included to make it a real Survival.

Otherwise it is only an adventure game.
Lhevias Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:48am 
well i must sadly say the game is rly not a survival game its more a rpg with some survival elements . that doesnt say its a bad game its just slightly wrong marketing until now maybe it will change more to survival with new stuff but now its not a survival still a good game
Khloros Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by grinsekeatzchen:
Enshrouded is a survival game.

People who say Enshrouded isn't a survival game, are not confused. Just angry that the game isn't what they imagined. When they can read, they know it's an survival game.

Honestly this is a bad take, its not really a survival game at all.
Survival implies that there is a danger of needing to survive or you die, Enshrouded does not have any of those mechanics. If i just stand some where, i wont die. There is no exposure mechanic, no starvation mechanic, hydration, sickness, need for shelter, anything.

Enshourded is a survival game in the same way BOTW is. They are not.
There is nothing you are surviving against.

So its a very fair criticism to say this is not a survival game, having building and crafting elements does not make it a survival game.
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Date Posted: Jul 18, 2024 @ 11:07pm
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