[UPDATED] Inexplicable issues, serious instability flaws. NOT SOLVED.

[FFox]

Updated november 22th 2022. See below.

In short, it has been around 2 years this game got released and I just can't believe I am tthe only one having these issues, either Denuvo is targeting my machine as malicious or RE Engine is indeed an unoptimized mess...

So, I can play the game on 800x600 minimum settings including FSR Ultra Performance and the game will drop to 14... 16.... 8...fps NO MATTER WHAT. Especially during scripted action/cutscenes.... Many NPC's at once? Dont even think about it.

This is so extreme to the point of game and audio de-syncing from each other.... As if the game turns into a super slow-mo on purpose.

I saw reviews of this game and benchmarks on the exact same hardware as mine. I am on a R5 1600 paired with an RX560. System memory 16GB.

I have tried Windows 10, Windows 11. Still no changes at all. After the new Winters Expansion DLC I decided to give this game another try and still the same.

The most interesting bit:
RE8.exe seems to hardcore so much into the system it doesn't even let me ALT TAB, Windows key becomes useless. Cant even bring up the task manager, it literally KILLS STEAM RUNNING of how much demanding it gets. Leaving my machine totally useless when re8.exe is running.

On the main manu, the game is already eating 8gb of total system ram, and when the game has loaded it jumps to 10gb of total ram usage.

On similar hardware, for everyone else the game runs just fine.... The game slows dows like hell but this isnt just FPS drops, looks like intentionally triggered. This 15fps dont feel the same as any other game if I manually limit it to such a low framerate.

When in "free roam" to put it like that, the game boosts a lot... 50fps... 60.... when the scripted action occurs is where it all goes to ♥♥♥♥.

Can please somebody tell me WTF is going on????? I cant be the only one jeez.

My theory: DENUVO is just a piece of crap which deserves to be nuked from existance.
*I haven't tried an "alternative" way of playing the game - I simply don't trust that*

Observations:
-Audio de-syncs from the action that's happening at the moment. During cutscenes.
-Windows key turns pretty much useless
-Volume keys also wont work
-Tried all of this in both Borderless and Fullscreen
-VRAM Ammout is INCORRECT - Game displays LESS THAN I HAVE. Only in RE8.
-Resident Evil 3 Remake RAN EXCELLENT. Zero issues.
-Tried to CAP FPS using RivaTuner
-Tried VSYNC ON/OFF - FreeSync aswell.
-Tried overlocking the whole thing, cpu ram gpu. No improvement.
-Tried using REFramework (a .dll which in theory makes the game run better)
-Tried using some mods to disable particle effects such as flies. No results.
-My motherboard bios is up to date. (B350 Tomahawk Arctic)
-Tried setting windows to max performance.

-The gold edition DEMO RAN GOOD ACTUALLY

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NOVEMBER 22TH 2022 UPDATE:
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I upgraded my system with a RX6600 of 8GB of VRAM.

This puts into evidence how much crap this game engine is.

The game runs 60FPS (capped) all times on ultra settings 1920x1080p the audio desync in the cutscenes is no longer HOWEVER I cant call it a day yet.

So before you give me a lecture about clean drivers and DDU etc etc, let me tell you YES I did all of that. Absolutely. Twice. No changes. This is not my PC lacking power anymore like it did a few weeks ago nor it is a system issue. It is the RE engine specially in this game, seems it is a massive flaw capcom is hiding at all costs.

The Denuvo DRM gets encrpyted so hard, that despite the GPU now running the game it is still the one to blame here. To begin with, the game does not recognize my full VRAM or 8GB it recognized 7.

Alt tabbing makes the system look like win98. Shift Tab / Steam Overlay stops working. Steam.exe even closes sometimes, if Discord is running it also closes. I got an ERROR MESSAGE SAYING THE SYSTEM RAN OUT OF MEMORY. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS. With monitoring active the game was not even using the whole system resources. Of 8gb of VRAM it took around 4.5 (missing one because it only detects 7) and talking about ram, of 16GB it takes 8-9. Depending on the situation, but the game IS playable, this is why I am so pissed, of how bad implemented is and their anti-tamper total madness.

So as usual, windows key turns useless doesnt do anything, keyboard media keys do noting, all of the issues above. Like I said, the DEMO DOES NOT SHOWN THESE ISSUES, and RE3R did also play in optimal conditions.

Of a total 16GB of RAM and 8GB of VRAM... Windows throws an error stating "the device is running low on memory" WHAT A BAD JOKE THIS IS, ALL OF IT.

TDR Errors, the graphics adapter not responding the video graphics controller crashing constantly. In short, this game literally poisons Windows. A total shame because it looks incredible and it even plays well but at the cost of destroying your system.

In short, no matter how powerful your PC is, if denuvo wants to screw with you it will.

The best thing empress did was to make their version playable, and I hope it gets an update since CAPCOM is fully aware of this issue and doesn't want to look at it. Seems they signed a deal with the devil.

Seriously, don't buy it, play it elsewhere, console or PC find some other method. But this is not worth a single dollar to not mention it is boring as hell and the least replayable game ever.

[CTRL+ALT+DEFEAT]

sounds like a similar issue to me. the game will run fine for a while but at some point (seems almost random) the game will start running like its stuck in molasses. it will usually clear up on its own but can take several minutes sometimes or i have to exit the game and then re-launch it. i haven't experienced the other issues you mention though (except for VRAM not showing correctly in settings).

i tried multiple graphics settings and was finally able to get the game to stop slowing down (at least as frequently) by dropping the resolution. i use an ultrawide 1440p monitor so dropped it from 3440x1440 to 2560x1440 and that seemed to make it better but it eventually came back.

it acts almost like it has a memory leak since i can quit out of the game and immediately re-launch it and its fine... for a while

[FFox]

I tried.... sigh......... no. it refuses to work. Found another person with the exact same issue, running the game on a GTX1050.... Exact problem, cutscenes slow down, audio and gameplay get de-sync...... Im sure this is on Capcoms end and they are hiding it. Why did they lie on PC Requirements in the first place? Maybe they just need to get rid off Derpnuvo.

I dont know what else to do. Thanks for the comment anyway!

[Dumar]

Originally posted by FFox:

In short, it has been around 2 years this game got released and I just can't believe I am tthe only one having these issues, either Denuvo is targeting my machine as malicious or RE Engine is indeed an unoptimized mess...

So, I can play the game on 800x600 minimum settings including FSR Ultra Performance and the game will drop to 14... 16.... 8...fps NO MATTER WHAT. Especially during scripted action/cutscenes.... Many NPC's at once? Dont even think about it.

This is so extreme to the point of game and audio de-syncing from each other.... As if the game turns into a super slow-mo on purpose.

I saw reviews of this game and benchmarks on the exact same hardware as mine. I am on a R5 1600 paired with an RX560. System memory 16GB.

I have tried Windows 10, Windows 11. Still no changes at all. After the new Winters Expansion DLC I decided to give this game another try and still the same.

The most interesting bit:
RE8.exe seems to hardcore so much into the system it doesn't even let me ALT TAB, Windows key becomes useless. Cant even bring up the task manager, it literally KILLS STEAM RUNNING of how much demanding it gets. Leaving my machine totally useless when re8.exe is running.

On the main manu, the game is already eating 8gb of total system ram, and when the game has loaded it jumps to 10gb of total ram usage.

On similar hardware, for everyone else the game runs just fine.... The game slows dows like hell but this isnt just FPS drops, looks like intentionally triggered. This 15fps dont feel the same as any other game if I manually limit it to such a low framerate.

When in "free roam" to put it like that, the game boosts a lot... 50fps... 60.... when the scripted action occurs is where it all goes to ♥♥♥♥.

Can please somebody tell me WTF is going on????? I cant be the only one jeez.

My theory: DENUVO is just a piece of crap which deserves to be nuked from existance.
*I haven't tried an "alternative" way of playing the game - I simply don't trust that*

Observations:
-Audio de-syncs from the action that's happening at the moment. During cutscenes.
-Windows key turns pretty much useless
-Volume keys also wont work
-Tried all of this in both Borderless and Fullscreen
-VRAM Ammout is INCORRECT - Game displays LESS THAN I HAVE. Only in RE8.
-Resident Evil 3 Remake RAN EXCELLENT. Zero issues.
-Tried to CAP FPS using RivaTuner
-Tried VSYNC ON/OFF - FreeSync aswell.
-Tried overlocking the whole thing, cpu ram gpu. No improvement.
-Tried using REFramework (a .dll which in theory makes the game run better)
-Tried using some mods to disable particle effects such as flies. No results.
-My motherboard bios is up to date. (B350 Tomahawk Arctic)
-Tried setting windows to max performance.

-The gold edition DEMO RAN GOOD ACTUALLY

The ALT-TAB thing being unresponsive while playing this game, I'd say its an RE Engine issue. Can't comfortably alt-tab out of RE3, RE2, nor RE7 as well. Capcom's game engine is just facking obnoxious on PC hardware.

And yes, their engine also disables the Windows-Key as well.

I think your issue is Denuvo, based on the history with the base game upon release in 2021 with the cutscenes.

If it is indeed Denuvo, its likely raping your CPU... Any word on the usage percent while gaming with MSI monitoring?

[CTRL+ALT+DEFEAT]

something i have noticed in my case. the game runs fine until i am somewhat near to where the Duke is. it seems that once i am within a certain range of his location, the game tanks and runs like garbage until i get far enough away from him.

can't find any info yet specific to this, but the issues with this game are making me a bit leary of picking up the RE4 remake.

RE7, RE2 remake and RE3 remake all ran fine, so i have no clue why this game has such performance issues.

not sure on the usage percentage on CPU either. i don't know a lot about how Denuvo works aside from it decrypting executable code on the fly and reporting to a server for the DRM checks, but i have heard that there multiple ways a dev can implement it and depending on their know-how/understanding of it, etc, it can either be a trash implementation or be basically unnoticed on the users end.

if i remember right, Bethesda/id had to patch it out of DOOM Eternal and i remember it being a huge issue with Lords of the Fallen's performance issues also.

[FFox]

Cpu usage is around 35 to 40%. Gpu usage ususlly around 99 to 100... Meanwhile the RAM usage is the most crazy. The game eats around 8gb to 11gb.

[FFox]

BUMP. I posted some new important information and a conclusion about this problem. See above.

EDIT: Dear Steam Community Moderators. It is very visible that you guys have to keep this section clean but please do understand, censorship leads to nowhere but more trouble and eventually this will get popular.

The game's DRM IS INDEED A SERIOUS PROBLEM, And the only way to "fix" this is to make noise and make it reach CAPCOM's DEVs. I do please beg you for some consideration about this and aknowledge it is an issue.

I ask you to please not lock this topic, since I've seen another user complaining about DENUVO's Anti-Tamper and as result has been blocked from posting. This is not a joke.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by FFox:

In short, it has been around 2 years this game got released and I just can't believe I am tthe only one having these issues,

May 2023 the game will than be out for 2 years. Still quite a ways away. You are the only one with this issue because it is most likely an issue with only your computer/specs.

First off your CPU is slow. If playing at 1080p or below like you tested (800x600) you maybe experiencing some bottlenecking as the game is more CPU bound at those resolutions. If other programs are running in the background as well like discord taking away resources it will make things worse.

An R5 1600 only has a boost clock of 3.6GHz and slow DDR4 speeds. Even when OC the CPU only goes around 3.9GHz. Still slow and even though it meets requirements does not guarantee it will perform well. That is why OC did little for you as the boost is so small its not noticeable,

Yes, this game will eat around 12.5GB of System RAM. Having only 16GB like you do may cause issues. Again, if you have things running in the background the system may have to re-allocate memory which will slow down the system. That is why even alt-tabbing is giving you issues.

I would suggest running the game on a clean boot. Disable ALL non-essential programs, services, and tasks from starting with computer. See if it helps.

After you ran a clean boot you should than monitor your CPU/GPU while playing to see what is going on in real time. Use MSI afterburner with RivaTuner. Check usage, thermals, clock speeds, power, etc.

Your RX 560 only has 4GB of VRAM. When game has less than 4GB of VRAM available it is known to cause issues with audio during cut scenes being out of sync. That is why when you used the RX 6600 with 8GB the issue went away.

Are you using an SSD or HDD? If you are running on a HDD that will also cause some minor performance issues with system responsiveness.

Have you increased your page file? This may help as it would give the system some virtual RAM since it seems you are running low. Give it a try.

When using DDU did you run in safe mode only with internet being disabled the whole time until after the display driver has installed? This will help avoid windows automatically searching and installing the display driver same time as you causing a conflict.

Also double check your motherboards BIOS settings. Default them, than apply the optimal settings of your choice. Choose correct XMP profile (AMP, DOCP, or EOCP) if supported. However, this could also cause an issue so test at JEDEC speeds.

When installing windows 10/11 did you format the drive first to ensure a clean install? Did you install up to date drivers, chipset, controllers, steam, and only game with nothing else installed?

FYI - Win 11 22H2 currently has a bug which hinders gaming performance. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2#2950msgdesc

Overall I think that is most likely the reason of having a slow CPU matched with not enough system RAM with slow speeds, and a culmination of other programs running while you are playing. Try my suggestions and see if they help.

[Dysphunc]

Something's wrong with your PC my man. I get that Denuvo eats a bit of performance but I'm using an RTX 3050 at 1440p with mostly high settings. I get 80+ fps with no FSR. I do have a R5 5600x and 16gb of RAM. Pretty modest PC.

For the audio de-sync issues, I had problems with that. The engine doesn't play nice with any audio enhancements you've got going in with Windows. Even Sonic for headphones. But I know Dolby Atmos make the game sh!t bricks.

I'm not much of an alt+tabber but I do know that minimizing the game can munt the HDR up.

With your specs you should be running the game fine. With "overwhelmingly positive" status on Steam, unfortunately you're in the minority with performance issues. I would keep looking at your PC friendo.