[SPOILER] Mia Winters?

[JellybeanStreamz]

When does Mia get kidnapped? My theory is that Mia gets kidnapped when you go upstairs to put Rose to bed and Mother Miranda does the ol' switcheroo and shortly after Chris shows up and blasts her, then the truck crashes and Rose is stolen. This is the only way it makes sense that Mia would be wearing the same outfit, reading the storybook, and that's the only way it would make sense for her to say she's been experimented on but it hasn't been long enough for them to do a Cadou experiment on her? Still, it seems silly that she'd be kidnapped and then Chris and co. immediately "kill" Mother Miranda like 10 minutes later...

[JimmyTheSaint™]

Well before the game started. Chris, or someone in his team, said they had been tracking Miranda for months. But you are right, there are a lot of blank spaces we have to wait for DLC to fill in or just guess at.

[Doc Holiday]

Nah, Miranda was impersonating Mia during the entirety of the game's intro. It does not make sense that Chris would be there that quick

[V I D A L]

Nah.. how would Chris and his team would know about if Miranda had switched places only 5 minutes before?
It's been a while.. Probably in a random day when Ethan went out to get groceries or something.
She is acting weird right from the story book reading. "There is nothing wrong with my memory".. being overly aggressive and weird.

[Mr.Zendosona]

And also Mia cooks local food, which is probably easier for Miranda than for Mia.
And the Wine is seemingly from the Castle aswell..

[Dutch]

They don't seem to have a very warm relationship in the prologue. Maybe it's because Mia is Miranda.

Ethan, Mia, and Rose all seem to be mold people by this point. So why does killing Miranda gravely injure Ethan but not the other two?

[Kraken]

Originally posted by Dutch:

They don't seem to have a very warm relationship in the prologue. Maybe it's because Mia is Miranda.
Ethan, Mia, and Rose all seem to be mold people by this point. So why does killing Miranda gravely injure Ethan but not the other two?

They must be cut from a different kind of .... well ... mold :D.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Dutch:

They don't seem to have a very warm relationship in the prologue. Maybe it's because Mia is Miranda.

Ethan, Mia, and Rose all seem to be mold people by this point. So why does killing Miranda gravely injure Ethan but not the other two?

Well from what we get in game, Rose is suppose to be like Eva, and Mia got the cure for the mold in RE7. While Ethan apparently after the opening section was fully a mold connected to everyone else. Honestly the reveal adds more plot holes then the writers think.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

There's no indication of exactly how long. Miranda said that she had been disguised for a while. Although it's most likely that Miranda had been posing as Mia for maybe a month, 2 or 3 months tops. Chris' team would definitely be acting quickly as soon as they got wind of her activities, for starters. The other hint is that Ethan mentions Mia went "full native" in the prologue, suggesting that these were newer habits and not established ones.

However, it's also clear that Rose has had enough time with the book that she really enjoys it. I think it's very possible that Miranda (posing as a local) sold Mia the book because she already knew about Rose. Then took some additional time to confirm that Mia was the mother of Rose, her target.

Lastly, there's no doubt in my mind that Miranda switched with Mia AFTER Rose was born, and Rose doesn't appear to be more than a year old. This greatly limits the time frame Miranda could have been posing as Mia, as she would need to have learned about Rose's birth (which Chris had clearly hidden from public records), verify the location of the Winters (also hidden), find a moment to capture and swap places with Mia (extremely difficult with the aforementioned conditions), and pose as Mia for an extended duration. Further evidence of the limited time frame is that Miranda's habits had only just started to manifest, as Ethan noted.

Mia hasn't changed much either. She's definitely in dirty clothes, but not ragged ones. Since they're still modern clothes as well, it suggests that Mia was not given a change of clothing and hasn't needed one. It's extremely likely that Miranda's switcheroo was less than a month with that additional context in mind.

[eglepe]

Originally posted by Dutch:

They don't seem to have a very warm relationship in the prologue. Maybe it's because Mia is Miranda.

Ethan, Mia, and Rose all seem to be mold people by this point. So why does killing Miranda gravely injure Ethan but not the other two?

Killing Miranda isn't what killed Ethan, the damage he took from the fight is what killed him. He was already in rough shape from having his heart ripped out earlier

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by eglepe:

Originally posted by Dutch:

They don't seem to have a very warm relationship in the prologue. Maybe it's because Mia is Miranda.

Ethan, Mia, and Rose all seem to be mold people by this point. So why does killing Miranda gravely injure Ethan but not the other two?

Killing Miranda isn't what killed Ethan, the damage he took from the fight is what killed him. He was already in rough shape from having his heart ripped out earlier

Since Ethan is a molded, wouldn’t that mean killing the origin would just kill him also?

[eglepe]

No they can all exist independently of the megamycete, otherwise Rose (and probably Mia, Duke etc) would've died too. The megamycete is just an "archive" of consciousnesses. Evelyn was the origin in RE7 and the molded she made didn't disappear after she died

[Bankai9212]

Eva isn’t the original source but a bi-product, and Mia was cured and rose was made under different circumstance. How do you know Duke is infected? May have missed a document.

[Physh]

Originally posted by Mr.Zendosona:

And also Mia cooks local food, which is probably easier for Miranda than for Mia.
And the Wine is seemingly from the Castle aswell..

I think this is the answer. There are hints during the opening that Mia is really trying to enjoy the local culture, but in retrospect those are hints that Mia is actually Miranda. Everything from the book to the food to the wine.

[Bankai9212]

I feel like if Ethan asked anything else outside of the events of RE7 he would have figured out it wasn’t Mia.

[eglepe]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Eva isn’t the original source but a bi-product, and Mia was cured and rose was made under different circumstance. How do you know Duke is infected? May have missed a document.

About Mia and Duke I'm just hypothesising. Mia says to Chris that they did experiments on her and Duke is clearly involved/mutated (knows about Rose/the lords/the ritual, does business with Dimitrescu).

Rose is somewhat different than regular molded but she's still a molded. If you read her flask you see the "if not injected regularly will rapidly age" warning, like what happened to Evie in RE7.

Nothing in the game implies that the megamycete blowing up affects any existing molded. Ethan explicitly says "we finished each other" after the Miranda fight, and is already in the process of crystallising before the megamycete blows up.