The Dagger of Death's Flowers

[BaLuX]

What do you think about the Dagger of Death's Flowers?
In case you are not familiar, the Dagger of Death's Flowers is the assassin's dagger Ethan uses to stab Dimitrescu.

There is limited information about it. There is a note in the castle's attic which says:
"I heard there was something called "the Dagger of Death's Flowers" somewhere in this castle.
It's apparently an antique from the Middle Ages that's coated in a concotion of poisons from across the continent. It's said to have been crafted to kill demons and monsters.
It sounds fascinating but... no one knows where it is."

Additionally, the concept art about it says:
"The story behind this dagger is that it was once used by a man long ago to try and kill Dimitrescu.
She sealed it away in the tower with his corpse because it was still a threat to her."

It is safe to assume that the dagger's poison blocked Alcina's regeneration ability, and allowed Ethan to defeat her. I believe that it is a very important item which deserves more spotlight, so I would love a DLC about it i.e. A scenario where you play as the man mentioned. What do you think? Would it be a good DLC scenario?

[iXeN]

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

[BaLuX]

Originally posted by iXeN:

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

It was supposedly safely sealed behind the door which requires the 4 masks, in order to prevent anyone from reaching the dagger. The odd thing is that the game doesn't give you any actual information about that door's purpose, other than "Here's a door with a fancy RE-style lock, and that's your way out".

[MILF & Cookies]

Originally posted by iXeN:

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

Bad writing and a rushed game, that's why. It's absurd that a story element such as that was relegated to concept art and not present within the game's plot itself.

[BaLuX]

Originally posted by Resident Milkers:

Originally posted by iXeN:

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

Bad writing and a rushed game, that's why. It's absurd that a story element such as that was relegated to concept art and not present within the game's plot itself.

Evidently the creators of RE8 had many interesting ideas, but they were kinda overwhelmed by them and didn't properly connect the ones which made it to the final product. Most probably they needed more time. The good thing though is that these scrapped ideas could prove to be interesting DLC material, such as Ada Wong's involvement or Duke being the 5th lord.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by iXeN:

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

If you're a near omnipotent being with only a single item being a threat to you, would you not want to know exactly where it is at all times? It's not the first time such a trope has happened. Powerful beings that want to keep a possible threat out of enemy/mortal hands isn't an unusual concept at all.

Back on topic, yes I believe that's exactly why Lady Dimitrescu kept it sealed away in her castle. Her regenerative powers would be negated by the various poisons, at least for a time. Who knows if it actually stops her regeneration permanently.

As a DLC, it seems like it'd be a little short to warrant being standalone. If there were other scenes included to better flesh out the various Lords, it might be worth including then.

[Diablerie]

Originally posted by Obsidian Dragoon:

Originally posted by iXeN:

And why it was kept in there if Lady Dimitrescu knew it could stop her regenerative powers?

If you're a near omnipotent being with only a single item being a threat to you, would you not want to know exactly where it is at all times? It's not the first time such a trope has happened. Powerful beings that want to keep a possible threat out of enemy/mortal hands isn't an unusual concept at all.

It's just a dagger, if it indeed is the ONLY thing that can kill you, one could easily have it chucked into a furnace and destroyed. Or just any fire really I am sure it would burn away any residual poisons on the blade. It's a pretty lazy Macguffin honestly. Hell if she was just keeping it around for some twisted sentimental value I am sure the blade could have been treated chemically in such a way as to neutralize the poisons on it.

As to the topic I don't think a dlc just about the dagger and how it wound up with Lady D would be too compelling. Purely from a narrative standpoint there isn't much to build on here and ultimately is pretty irrelevant to the story. I honestly wish there were a better way to defeat Lady D, some other weakness that made more sense (like the daughters and their cold vulnerability for example) Just anything really rather than her conveniently having a centuries old blade made for killing demons and monsters...that is just laughable. Now if you asked me about a dlc that would explain wtf were the people who originally made this blade were fighting? THAT'D be something I wanna know about.

[BaLuX]

Originally posted by Diablerie:

Originally posted by Obsidian Dragoon:

If you're a near omnipotent being with only a single item being a threat to you, would you not want to know exactly where it is at all times? It's not the first time such a trope has happened. Powerful beings that want to keep a possible threat out of enemy/mortal hands isn't an unusual concept at all.

It's just a dagger, if it indeed is the ONLY thing that can kill you, one could easily have it chucked into a furnace and destroyed. Or just any fire really I am sure it would burn away any residual poisons on the blade. It's a pretty lazy Macguffin honestly. Hell if she was just keeping it around for some twisted sentimental value I am sure the blade could have been treated chemically in such a way as to neutralize the poisons on it.

As to the topic I don't think a dlc just about the dagger and how it wound up with Lady D would be too compelling. Purely from a narrative standpoint there isn't much to build on here and ultimately is pretty irrelevant to the story. I honestly wish there were a better way to defeat Lady D, some other weakness that made more sense (like the daughters and their cold vulnerability for example) Just anything really rather than her conveniently having a centuries old blade made for killing demons and monsters...that is just laughable. Now if you asked me about a dlc that would explain wtf were the people who originally made this blade were fighting? THAT'D be something I wanna know about.

I agree that not destroying was a stupid thing to do and convenient plot wise. However it could be justified by the fact that Lady D was notorious for keeping mementos of her victims i.e. the female ones were converted to Moroaica or Samca and the male ones were converted to scarecrows.

Regarding the dagger's story, if it was made into a DLC it would probably be set in the final days of the unnamed man, where the player would take control of him during these events.

A possible story would be something like this:
The man is a villager or a servant, who finds out that the staff was being killed so that their blood would be used to create the wine. He decides to kill Lady D's reign in order to stop this madness but the only way to kill Lady D is to stop her regeneration. Somehow he discovers that the dagger of Death's flowers exists and that it is able to stop her regeneration, so he goes to search for it. He finds it, returns to finish the job, but things don't go according to plan and he is killed.

I would also love to see a story about Donna or Heisenberg, but Alcina's backstory is greater than all the other lords' backstories combined so there is more content to be used as DLC material.

[iXeN]

The DLC could be around Rose or Chris, and it depends either a backstory or sequel that reveals some mysteries from RE7/RE8

[Sellere E. Stokkes@Mid-Knight]

Muramasa Blade owned by Wolverine was basically the same thing. Lady D. (eathstrike) had a crazy upbringing, and the same type long fingernails...

This game is about gifts.... Mainly lichen

[MILF & Cookies]

Originally posted by Sellere E. Stokkes@Mid-Knight:

Muramasa Blade owned by Wolverine was basically the same thing. Lady D. (eathstrike) had a crazy upbringing, and the same type long fingernails...

This game is about gifts.... Mainly lichen

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