WHY THE ♥♥♥♥ DID THIS WIN STEAM AWARDS GAME OF THE YEAR? (and a possible answer)

[docbell1516]

This won Steam Awards Game of the Year 2021. Not Dread Templar, not Hell Let Loose, not Psychonauts 2, but this. The worst entry in the mainline franchise since Resident Evil 6.

The game that failed at its job as sequel to VII with dropped plot points like the Contractors and Blue Umbrella.
The game that wasted two of my favourite characters (Chris Redfield and Mia Winters) in different ways respectively.
The game that took a dump on established franchise rules by having the main monsters, the Four Lords, use fantasy superpowers.
The game where in a macguffin hunt took centre stage over mystery and intrigue.
The game that retconned aspects of how the mold works.
The game that gleefully rendered every other entry in the series pointless and rendered the horrors that everyone endured in their struggle to end the threat of Bio Organic Weaponry all for nothing just to introduce a superpowered hero a la ALICE (Rose Winters).

All I have to say is: YOU VILLAGE FANS ARE BRAINLESS SHEEP! Yes, the gameplay is good, but the story was so atrocious, absurd, insulting, nihilistic and franchise-killing that my tolerance for this game receiving any praise at all is at zero. I say this as a fan of VII, by the way. I say this as someone who was born in 2000, too. YOU. PEOPLE. ARE. SHEEP.
P.S. I see you guy trying to invoke the "Trash the Classics" defence on VII. Don't even think about it.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by keybox:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

The blind rage from OP is why I'm glad this won GOTY. RE fans are some of the whiniest, Most nostalgia bloated people in gaming.

I wonder if OP would implode in a ball of rage if this goes on to be the best selling RE game.

I really think it's because they played them as kids and so the suspension of disbelief was way easier for them back then. Now they're playing more of the same as adults and they can't believe it's any different to what they played from when they were kids. The stories haven't changed. They did. They grew up, and that's ok. Just have fun, games don't have to be believable to be enjoyed.

I played them as a kid and since RE7 came out, I love the first person view. it makes it so much better. honestly ever since 4 the series went down hill for me. it was only really RE7 that brought it back and with this latest entry i think its even better. im happy it won steam GOTY.

[nomorevideos]

Originally posted by keybox:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

The blind rage from OP is why I'm glad this won GOTY. RE fans are some of the whiniest, Most nostalgia bloated people in gaming.

I wonder if OP would implode in a ball of rage if this goes on to be the best selling RE game.

I really think it's because they played them as kids and so the suspension of disbelief was way easier for them back then. Now they're playing more of the same as adults and they can't believe it's any different to what they played from when they were kids. The stories haven't changed. They did. They grew up, and that's ok. Just have fun, games don't have to be believable to be enjoyed.

I played RE1 when I was 25 (last, or rather 2 years ago) and 1's story including the other games' stories are tenfold better than what 8 has to offer. 8 couldn't even be bothered to pretend that anything makes sense. You're in a random village in Romania, but everyone speaks perfect.. Midwestern? and British English and not a single time do you hear someone swear or yell out in Romanian or whatever other traditional languages they might have there. RE4 might've had Mexican accents for Spanish villagers, but they at least attempted to make it seem authentic in some ways. Nothing in this game is authentic or tries to make sense.

The VAs didn't do a good job at all in this game and they're not even really to blame. The guy who voiced Walter also voiced Niko in RE3 2020. He did a pretty good job in that game. Yet in RE8 it sounds like some random guy from the US. Not only was the direction terrible, but the writing is awful too. The Duke is the only person who had decent writing and didn't overplay anything.

[HEXEN]

I could flood this thread with all the dumb, badly acted lines from the series and RE 7 and RE 8 would have BY FAR the least amount.

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

Originally posted by HEXEN:

There is nothing of substance in this opinion of yours because you never back it up with anything concrete from the game. It's basically only bait in the form of cloud shoveling.

Read my review and it's backed up.

RE8 indeed tries to be a jack of all trades and attempted to copy several things from older games, but hilariously failed at every single one of it. From the failure of being an action game to the failed exploration "back to the roots BS" and even basic things like inventory management that even games like RE6 had. RE6 actually has a maximum carrying capacity for ammo and items, which most people don't notice, but sometimes you'll not be able to pick certain things up till you get rid of another ammo stack. RE8 failed at being a RE game like no other mainline game before and even as a non-RE game it is a rather poor game.

There's nothing wrong with personal preference, but personal preference should not be brought into a discussion about a game's actual merits. Face value is a lot more important than personal enjoyment, because the former you can factually judge while the latter you cannot. You at most can make small arguments in favor of it with the latter. I have 500 hours on Ghosts' Extinction mode for example. I've played its base map like 300+ times across Xbox and PC. It's a map that once you've played it a few times has nothing new to offer. There's no variety in enemy spawns really and it's always the same. I still enjoyed blasting space bugs for hundreds of hours on it. If I had to rate the map and the entire mode though I wouldn't take my own feelings into consideration. It's a rather throwaway bonus mode, that with care and time could've been a lot more in future installments of CoD. It's something that's good for playing like a couple of hours, maybe a few dozen if you count DLC. but beyond that there's nothing besides pure "fun" if you enjoy shooting aliens and unlocking bonus items.

You're confused. RE 5 had extremely lackluster inventory management. You had a 3x3 grid and all weapons took only one space. And ammo do stack up and take space in your inventory in RE 8. Maybe boot it again and take a good look at it? Also RE 6 had 0 inventory management at all so I don't know why you're bringing this one up. You could literally carry all available weapons on you at all times. Of course there was a limit of ammo you could carry because that's how it usually works in run-of-the-mill third-person shooters.

As for your "jack-of-all-trade" argument, RE 8 is definitely just an amalgam of RE 4 and RE 7 but it hits the action to horror balance waaaay better than RE 4. RE 4 is a non-stop succession of intense action sequences which was kind of a shame because it had an amazing atmosphere going on. In RE 8, we have such an atmosphere again but the pacing makes the game into a true horror experience.

[Bͥatͣmͫan]

Originally posted by HEXEN:

I could flood this thread with all the dumb, badly acted lines from the series and RE 7 and RE 8 would have BY FAR the least amount.

not really you have to think about the times
When re 1 came out video games had cheesy acting
compare that to newer games ethan's voice actor is terrible ( sounds asleep in the sound booth)

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

Originally posted by HEXEN:

I could flood this thread with all the dumb, badly acted lines from the series and RE 7 and RE 8 would have BY FAR the least amount.

not really you have to think about the times
When re 1 came out video games had cheesy acting
compare that to newer games ethan's voice actor is terrible ( sounds asleep in the sound booth)

He's still by far the better acted and most believable protag in the whole series. I don't know what you guys' point of reference is for the voice acting here but it certainly isn't the RE series because if it was you would consider Ethan's performance to be absolutely stellar.

I'm sure if they had slapped an anime face on him you'd have been like "ohhh so good"...

Edit : Personally, I love Ethan's freak out moments. To me this was something that was definitely missing from the series.

[Bͥatͣmͫan]

Originally posted by HEXEN:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

not really you have to think about the times
When re 1 came out video games had cheesy acting
compare that to newer games ethan's voice actor is terrible ( sounds asleep in the sound booth)

He's still by far the better acted and most believable protag in the whole series. I don't know what you guys' point of reference is for the voice acting here but it certainly isn't the RE series because if it was you would consider Ethan's performance to be absolutely stellar.

I'm sure if they had slapped an anime face on him you'd have been like "ohhh so good"...

i don't agree at all you should seek towards resident evil 6 then if you want incredible voice acting ( it peaked in voice acting with re 6)

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

Originally posted by HEXEN:

He's still by far the better acted and most believable protag in the whole series. I don't know what you guys' point of reference is for the voice acting here but it certainly isn't the RE series because if it was you would consider Ethan's performance to be absolutely stellar.

I'm sure if they had slapped an anime face on him you'd have been like "ohhh so good"...

i don't agree at all you should seek towards resident evil 6 then if you want incredible voice acting ( it peaked in voice acting with re 6)

If the point of reference is anime then yes, otherwise no. RE 6 doesn't have adequate voice acting in terms of horror cinema (which is what RE 7 and RE 8 are obviously trying to emulate). All performances in RE 8 are pretty grounded except for Heisenberg who sounds straight out of an anime and therefore extremely out of place.

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

Originally posted by HEXEN:

If the point of reference is anime then yes, otherwise no. RE 6 doesn't have adequate voice acting in terms of horror cinema (which is what RE 7 and RE 8 are obviously trying to emulate). All performances in RE 8 are pretty grounded except for Heisenberg who sounds straight out of an anime and therefore extremely out of place.

i would not call re 8 a horror game :)

Then I imagine you don't consider RE to be a horror series at all because in terms of scare factor RE 7 and RE 8 are at the absolute top. You see that's exactly the kind of argument that makes me regret trying to have a constructive argument with you guys because it's 100% troll material since RE 8 can't even be considered anything else than horror.

[Bͥatͣmͫan]

Originally posted by HEXEN:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

i would not call re 8 a horror game :)

Then I imagine you don't consider RE to be a horror series at all because in terms of scare factor RE 7 and RE 8 are at the absolute top. You see that's exactly the kind of argument that makes me regret trying to have a constructive argument with you guys because it's 100% troll material since RE 8 can't even be considered anything else than horror.

resident evil 8 is a shooter not horror

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

Originally posted by HEXEN:

Then I imagine you don't consider RE to be a horror series at all because in terms of scare factor RE 7 and RE 8 are at the absolute top. You see that's exactly the kind of argument that makes me regret trying to have a constructive argument with you guys because it's 100% troll material since RE 8 can't even be considered anything else than horror.

resident evil 8 is a shooter not horror

Shooter is a game genre. Horror is genre of fiction. You can have a horror FPS, a horror RPG, a horror point-and-click adventure, etc... Literally all RE games are shooters by the way, wake up.

[nomorevideos]

Originally posted by HEXEN:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧Bͥatͣmͫan:

resident evil 8 is a shooter not horror

Literally all RE games are shooters by the way, wake up.

My man.

[GaryGoat350]

I'm about to start my 11th playthrough. Never played A game this much in my life

[keybox]

Originally posted by Apple_Sauce:

Originally posted by keybox:

I really think it's because they played them as kids and so the suspension of disbelief was way easier for them back then. Now they're playing more of the same as adults and they can't believe it's any different to what they played from when they were kids. The stories haven't changed. They did. They grew up, and that's ok. Just have fun, games don't have to be believable to be enjoyed.

I played them as a kid and since RE7 came out, I love the first person view. it makes it so much better. honestly ever since 4 the series went down hill for me. it was only really RE7 that brought it back and with this latest entry i think its even better. im happy it won steam GOTY.

For me, 8 and 4 are very similar, and they're both among my favourites. I agree though, I loved 7 and 8 a lot and love the FPP and I also played them all (but couldn't finish 1 cause I was too young for the tank controls) as a kid.

[keybox]

Originally posted by HEXEN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JOsUhrrxeg

Perfection.