Windows 7 Support?

[SonicUnleashedXY]

This discussion is clearly getting derailed for a simple question, leave if you got nothing constructive to say. There's is many reason why users such as myself are not upgrading to Windows 10 at the moment.

So this issue is likely a DirectX 12 problem or a missing or outdated dependencies which is only on WIndows 8.1 & 10.

Windows 7 can technically support it if the developers add it to the game since it's not on a OS level. For example, Ring of Elysium & Fortnite can support it for WIndows 7. Meaning I run Fortnite in DirectX 12 just fine.

If it's a XAudio issue, I've already got a solution for that as I've solved it for First Class Trouble with a help from a friend. However, that's unlikely since the game uses XAudio 2.7, not XAudio 2.8.

This guide by someone else might help you get you into the game or at least launch it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2479282927

[Plake]

The issue is not DX12, the issue is you are still expecting support for an outdated OS, where even the developer dropped support for it...

[SonicUnleashedXY]

Originally posted by Plake:

The issue is not DX12, the issue is you are still expecting support for an outdated OS, where even the developer dropped support for it...

This OS can run the game in Vulkan according to this guide suggesting it's a DirectX 12 issue. So you're point about DX12 not being an issue is in fact wrong. My point is that Microsoft gave a solution for adding DX12 to Windows 7 & yet they've decided not to use it. The other problem with XAudio has a work around by the community if that's a problem.

I also don't care if my OS is outdated. There's many reason why I'll rather stay on Windows 7 for the time being on this PC.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2479282927

[Mentally Unstable]

Right from the start, the requirements have clearly stated win 10. There's no way they are going to spare the time and effort to do backwards compatibility.

[SonicUnleashedXY]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

Right from the start, the requirements have clearly stated win 10. There's no way they are going to spare the time and effort to do backwards compatibility.

You'll never know, allowing backwards compatibility or DX11 support would allow more people to play it & therefore mean more money. Considering that RE8 is running on the same engine since RE6. It's not completely out the question.

[Plake]

Just because your local store still sells you accessories for the 1978 satelite phone, doesn't mean every hifi shop HAS TO sell those as well (as comparison to the "but this game works fine" or "I like this OS more so I WANT it be supported by the new game)...

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

You'll never know, allowing backwards compatibility or DX11 support would allow more people to play it & therefore mean more money. Considering that RE8 is running on the same engine since RE6. It's not completely out the question.

Don't you think they would have already considered that(including whatever % that are still on win 7) before producing the game just like they did for the other titles? If they had any inclination of supporting it, they would have already done so. I'm not saying it is technically impossible to do so for the game, I'm saying they won't and cannot be bothered to. Such things require substantial work and as we all know, AAA game devs(and their publishers) loathe going back to make big changes.

[SonicUnleashedXY]

Originally posted by Plake:

Just because your local store still sells you accessories for the 1978 satelite phone, doesn't mean every hifi shop HAS TO sell those as well (as comparison to the "but this game works fine" or "I like this OS more so I WANT it be supported the new game)...

When did I say want? The discussion was more of a question & pointing out examples of past games doing it. So at this point, if you got nothing else to say. Then don't say.

[Deep Space K9]

Windows 7 is a dead operating system that Microsoft is no longer supporting (AKA that OS is now a security risk and has been since January 2020). Don't expect support from games. If you get it, you're lucky.

[Plake]

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

Originally posted by Plake:

Just because your local store still sells you accessories for the 1978 satelite phone, doesn't mean every hifi shop HAS TO sell those as well (as comparison to the "but this game works fine" or "I like this OS more so I WANT it be supported the new game)...

When did I say want? The discussion was more of a question & pointing out examples of past games doing it. So at this point, if you got nothing else to say. Then don't say.

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

So the issue is likely DirectX 12 problem.

However, Windows 7 can technically support it if the developers add it to the game. Ring of Elysium & Fortnite can support it for WIndows 7 & in fact, I run Fortnite in DirectX 12 just fine.

I "love" people getting peachy for stuff they forgot they posted

[SonicUnleashedXY]

Originally posted by Plake:

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

When did I say want? The discussion was more of a question & pointing out examples of past games doing it. So at this point, if you got nothing else to say. Then don't say.

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

So the issue is likely DirectX 12 problem.

However, Windows 7 can technically support it if the developers add it to the game. Ring of Elysium & Fortnite can support it for WIndows 7 & in fact, I run Fortnite in DirectX 12 just fine.

I don't see anything wrong here? I'm just stating facts here. But if you're confused about why I've said it in that manner, then I'll suggest you look here.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/porting-directx-12-games-to-windows-7/
https://github.com/microsoft/DirectX-Graphics-Samples/tree/develop/Samples/Desktop/D3D12On7

[Plake]

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

Originally posted by Plake:

I don't see anything wrong here? I'm just stating facts here. But if you're confused about why I've said it in that manner then I'll suggest you look here.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/porting-directx-12-games-to-windows-7/
https://github.com/microsoft/DirectX-Graphics-Samples/tree/develop/Samples/Desktop/D3D12On7

You are really thick-headed, no?

This time I write slower and more clearly:
Just because fortnite runs on win 7, doesn't mean EVERY game has to run on an OS that even M$ dropped support for!
The future is now old man!

[SonicUnleashedXY]

Originally posted by Plake:

Originally posted by SonicUnleashedXY:

I don't see anything wrong here? I'm just stating facts here. But if you're confused about why I've said it in that manner then I'll suggest you look here.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/porting-directx-12-games-to-windows-7/
https://github.com/microsoft/DirectX-Graphics-Samples/tree/develop/Samples/Desktop/D3D12On7

You are really thick-headed, no?

This time I write slower and more clearly:
Just because fortnite runs on win 7, doesn't mean EVERY game has to run on an OS that even M$ dropped support for!
The future is now old man!

Now we're going into school jokes. Nice one Not really. I've already made my point & you keep going on about it. If you got nothing else to add then don't.

[Mentally Unstable]

IMO, more games should use vulkan as the main API rather than DX12 or at least offer vulkan as an alternative, Out of the box compatibility for older OS aside, it seems to run better than dx12 as well in games such as RDR2.

[RogellParadox]

Not DX12 problem. My card does support DX12 and I still can't play it at all.

[Plake]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

IMO, more games should use vulkan as the main API rather than DX12 or at least offer vulkan as an alternative, Out of the box compatibility for older OS aside, it seems to run better than dx12 as well in games such as RDR2.

My rig is pretty recent, but I have strange artifacts in shadows with Vulkan on RDR2, so for me DX12 is the way to go there...