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Chris Mar 13, 2021 @ 5:36am
Same FPS no matter what graphic settings/DLSS on or off.
My Rig:
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 3060 ti (OC)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600x (OC)
16 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz RAM (OC)
Game is on a NVME SSD

I get around 80-90 FPS in this game, no matter what graphic settings I use. Dont take me wrong, 90 is absolutely enough for such a game, but its still weird. Even with DLSS Performance/Ultra Performance/Quality, I still get around 90 FPS. I set the limit to 120 and 144.

Any fixes?
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MetalCannon2 Mar 14, 2021 @ 6:28am 
Are you playing with an Xbox One controller? The frames drop when using Xbox controllers.
probably because you are overclocked. overclocking ryzen 3000 series is a waste and can actually make it run worse because you mess with the chips internal design. just get good cooling and your ryzen will do the rest. it's equipped with amd algorithm that will boost as high as it can when the opportunity presents itself via thermal or voltage. when you overclock you mess with this and single-core boost is lost, and that's what games like core performance.
If you want to overclock you get an intel K chip, that's what they are for.
Kage Goomba Mar 14, 2021 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by MetalCannon2:
Are you playing with an Xbox One controller? The frames drop when using Xbox controllers.

Bit subjective isn't it? Not to mention misleading.

(holds up controller) No FPS Drops here.
Chris Mar 14, 2021 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by MetalCannon2:
Are you playing with an Xbox One controller? The frames drop when using Xbox controllers.

Nope, I am not playing with a controller. Been using mouse and keyboard. Also I don't get drops, its just a solid 80-90 FPS. Of course minor drops (+ - 2 or 3 frames) but thats not a problem.

Originally posted by Hardware Hero™:
probably because you are overclocked. overclocking ryzen 3000 series is a waste and can actually make it run worse because you mess with the chips internal design. just get good cooling and your ryzen will do the rest. it's equipped with amd algorithm that will boost as high as it can when the opportunity presents itself via thermal or voltage. when you overclock you mess with this and single-core boost is lost, and that's what games like core performance.
If you want to overclock you get an intel K chip, that's what they are for.

I've turned OC off before and it didn't seem to change much. I also got a liquid cooling so that's not the problem. It just seems like the game is capped to like 90 FPS (and no, my monitor is not capped to 90 FPS ;p), even on different resolutions.

Ah well, probably won't be playing this game anymore soon anyway so I'm fine with it. I was just wondering if it was a common thing. Thanks for your answers though guys :winter2019happydog:
Last edited by Chris; Mar 14, 2021 @ 12:04pm
Kule02 Mar 14, 2021 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:
Originally posted by MetalCannon2:
Are you playing with an Xbox One controller? The frames drop when using Xbox controllers.

Bit subjective isn't it? Not to mention misleading.

(holds up controller) No FPS Drops here.

Actually win 10 had/has? a bug with bluetooth, and when using an xbox one controller it messes with fps. This issue has been a problem with other games and it's one of the common causes whenever people report fps issues. I think it was update 2004 that introduced it, and maybe in current versions it's been resolved, but I don't know first hand as I use a DS4.

As for OP, if you have any bluetooth adapters connected to your PC or anything using bluetooth, you might want to try disabling them. It might not help your issue but it's worth testing.
Last edited by Kule02; Mar 14, 2021 @ 2:34pm
Kage Goomba Mar 14, 2021 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by neonsquare:
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Bit subjective isn't it? Not to mention misleading.

(holds up controller) No FPS Drops here.

Actually win 10 had/has? a bug with bluetooth, and when using an xbox one controller it messes with fps. This issue has been a problem with other games and it's one of the common causes whenever people report fps issues. I think it was update 2004 that introduced it, and maybe in current versions it's been resolved, but I don't know first hand as I use a DS4.

As for OP, if you have any bluetooth adapters connected to your PC or anything using bluetooth, you might want to try disabling them. It might not help your issue but it's worth testing.

You presume I'm wireless...didn't say I was.
Wired here.
Still... no FPS drops.

Now Bluetooth is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ technology - that I'll not dispute.
Go wired - wireless isn't as nice as it seems these days.
Barmy Deer 𝝙 Mar 15, 2021 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by MetalCannon2:
The frames drop when using Xbox controllers.

IF that was true please drop that controller, not the FPS, LOOOL! :dssmile::dssmile::dssmile:
Last edited by Barmy Deer 𝝙; Mar 15, 2021 @ 12:44am
Barmy Deer 𝝙 Mar 15, 2021 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by neonsquare:
Actually win 10 had/has? a bug with bluetooth, and when using an xbox one controller it messes with fps.

Bluetooth cannot affect your framerate. It might delay your inputs though, which is a different story.

Kage Goomba Mar 15, 2021 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Barmy Deer:
Originally posted by neonsquare:
Actually win 10 had/has? a bug with bluetooth, and when using an xbox one controller it messes with fps.

Bluetooth cannot affect your framerate. It might delay your inputs though, which is a different story.

Wrong.

Any network device can-and-will impact your FPS - seen it happen numerous times.
Its not an easy beast to tame - and has dozens of contributors.

Bluetooth is the worst of these to be sure as its the poorest designed technology I've seen yet - especially in windows 10.

It's all a matter of maintaining a balance of resources and ensuring your not doing anything that causes a drain on your game's ability to efficiently play.

IE: Steam downloading an update - will kill your games FPS - it does for mine. That's just one example.

Controllers causing a drop is suspect as a source - ignoring the wireless aspect ((interference for one) - I would not be so quick to accuse.

Also you forget - a wireless controller - requires additional processing/steps/work to handle inputs.

Whereas a wired connection is fewer tasks - straight forward. Now in practice/theory its not supposed to have a problem - yet obviously there is cause to suspect it.

Granted this is a debate that will become incredibly subjective - my point here is - don't use this as a crusade to say controller users should trash them and go keyboard - instead lets come up with solutions please.

FPS drops can be as simple as a driver - or windows update - or something bogging the PCIe bus - the list goes on. Even the GPU itself as someone pointed out at one point - or in a different thread.

Again - I've had nothing of the kind here - Xbox One Controller - Wired - period.

Now I'll say that I'm running a system specifically designed to take as much of the "Crap" off the table in terms of what would bog it down.

RAID 1 Arrays - High End Storage drives - Tons of RAM

And yet windows finds ways to crap out - all thanks to poor OS Design and poorer driver design.

Keyboard and Mouse are easy to point too because its a common denominator with the fewest points of contention to deal with short of "extras" in terms of macro'ing and functions.

But its not a platform or excuse to force people to play the game in ways they do not prefer to do so.
Kule02 Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:
Originally posted by neonsquare:

Actually win 10 had/has? a bug with bluetooth, and when using an xbox one controller it messes with fps. This issue has been a problem with other games and it's one of the common causes whenever people report fps issues. I think it was update 2004 that introduced it, and maybe in current versions it's been resolved, but I don't know first hand as I use a DS4.

As for OP, if you have any bluetooth adapters connected to your PC or anything using bluetooth, you might want to try disabling them. It might not help your issue but it's worth testing.

You presume I'm wireless...didn't say I was.
Wired here.
Still... no FPS drops.

Now Bluetooth is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ technology - that I'll not dispute.
Go wired - wireless isn't as nice as it seems these days.

You're not the OP and I have no idea why you're even posting in this thread if you have no issues. I'm simply stating facts that win 10 has a bluetooth bug which severely cuts FPS in a similar way to what OP is reporting.
Last edited by Kule02; Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:17am
Kage Goomba Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by neonsquare:
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

You presume I'm wireless...didn't say I was.
Wired here.
Still... no FPS drops.

Now Bluetooth is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ technology - that I'll not dispute.
Go wired - wireless isn't as nice as it seems these days.

You're not the OP and I have no idea why you're even posting in this thread if you have no issues. I'm simply stating facts that win 10 has a bluetooth bug which severely cuts FPS in a similar way to what OP is reporting. Maybe don't post in threads if you're not going to be useful.

The same can be said about you...either you contribute with facts...or move along.
Kule02 Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:
Originally posted by neonsquare:

You're not the OP and I have no idea why you're even posting in this thread if you have no issues. I'm simply stating facts that win 10 has a bluetooth bug which severely cuts FPS in a similar way to what OP is reporting. Maybe don't post in threads if you're not going to be useful.

The same can be said about you...either you contribute with facts...or move along.

Everything I've written is factual. Anyone can google search 'win 10 bluetooth FPS bug' and find countless bug reports.

I also didn't see your post where you expanded on OS issues, so I take back what I said about you not being useful, you were baiting with your previous comments though, which isn't useful and happens too often on steam forums.
Last edited by Kule02; Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:21am
Kage Goomba Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:25am 
Originally posted by neonsquare:
Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

The same can be said about you...either you contribute with facts...or move along.

Everything I've written is factual. Anyone can google search 'win 10 bluetooth FPS bug' and find countless bug reports.

I also didn't see your post where you expanded on OS issues, so I take back what I said about you not being useful, you were baiting with your previous comments though, which isn't useful and happens too often on steam forums.

And people wonder why I get so terse when they don't read what is said and jump to conclusions.
Barmy Deer 𝝙 Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by neonsquare:

win 10 has a bluetooth bug which severely cuts FPS in a similar way to what OP is reporting.

You're talking about LAG caused by bluetooth, but the OP is not experiencing any lag. They're actually getting high FPS already, and they're simply wondering why those high FPS don't change in any way when they tweak the graphics settings.

As others have suggested, it's most likely due to their overclocked settings.

Different topics.
Kule02 Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Barmy Deer:
Originally posted by neonsquare:

win 10 has a bluetooth bug which severely cuts FPS in a similar way to what OP is reporting.

You're talking about LAG caused by bluetooth, but the OP is not experiencing any lag. They're actually getting high FPS already, and they're simply wondering why those high FPS don't change in any way when they tweak the graphics settings.

As others have suggested, it's most likely due to their overclocked settings.

Different topics.

I'm not talking about lag. I'm part of a modding community and a load of people a year ago (when update 2004 was pushed out) started reporting that the game was running with really low FPS. Nobody could understand what was going on, until someone randomly suggested removing any bluetooth adapters, and suddenly the people who were affected saw the expected FPS. I'm not an engineer but for people with a certain setup, turning bluetooth on/off is like a throttle for their FPS. You can search google and find a lot of people that had this issue with many games.

I never said it's OP's issue, I just said that it's worth testing if it's the cause. Also, I realise it sounds crazy that buetooth can have this effect, but it really does and it was listed in the bug list for win 10 update 2004, and it was pulled from the automatic update system for about 6 months. I have no idea if the bug was fixed or not as it never affected me.
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