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Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 25 日 上午 10:09
Offline Vs Online ?
I heard game is too easy and immersion breaking if you play online cuz theres buildings, ropes, ladders, signs, roads and stuff everywhere.
Can I play offline since beggining and continue playing without internet acsses? How hard game will be offline? Someone said it takes too long to build roads solo? Do they plan on maybe contricting server size from 100 to like 25 players?
p.s. when do u guys think this will be on sale? It's been out for consoles a good while now so we should expect a pc steam sale rather soon, no?
引用自 DizzieDawgie:
Ultimately, here's my take on all this:

Yeah, having other's objects appear in your game makes traversal across the map much easier and I think it does ruin some of the exploration aspects. In my first several hours of gameplay I didn't place a single item myself because everyone else's ladders/bridges worked just fine for me. And seeing some constructs off in corners of the map you haven't explored can give you hints (that you may not have wanted) about where some hidden locations/items might be. Not to mention other player's signs can get kinda spammy in some places.

On the other hand, building everything yourself can start to get tedious (especially the roads), but you might enjoy that aspect of the game.

Concerning roads, it's been my experience that they mostly do NOT get built and placed in your game without you directly contributing to them (and I think the game is actually designed to be that way). For most all roads in my game so far, I have contributed at least a quarter of all the materials myself and I find that to be an appropriate amount to make me feel like I contributed significantly, without making it a boring or tedious chore.
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MasterDrake 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 2:45 
引用自 Shuras
引用自 MasterDrake
they require so much materials only if they're not part of the chiral network
I've never seen so much materials requirements

Maybe I'm just unlucky ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://gyazo.com/4e4b7e9e331778715cd5bdae5bd499de
are you sure that zone is already under the chiral network?
Try to press the R3 button near that road and if it's darker than the rest, you have to find the prepper
Maybe you'll missed one
Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 2:50 
引用自 Varyn GER
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity

So if i want something that takes lots of time solo like a highway I have to live with ladders and ropes as well?
Ehh, I'll pass. Thanks for info. Guess I'll stay clear of online for now or at least for my first playthrough.
No, you wont get ladders or anything contructable from others when playing online with option 2 and 3 off - but you still get the standard help with roads. I suggest you play online with the options 2 and 3 disabled. If those minor multiplayer parts left still bugger you, you can go offline whenever you want.

so what is left if i disable signs and constructions? roads, lost cargo, bikes? or...?
Varyn [GER] 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 2:57 
引用自 MasterDrake
引用自 Shuras

Maybe I'm just unlucky ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://gyazo.com/4e4b7e9e331778715cd5bdae5bd499de
are you sure that zone is already under the chiral network?
Try to press the R3 button near that road and if it's darker than the rest, you have to find the prepper
Maybe you'll missed one
It is... because it's a screenshot with the network overlay enabled ;o) Look top left, the area with the writer boy is missing to the network. (if I'm remembering that area correctly)
最後修改者:Varyn [GER]; 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:00
Varyn [GER] 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:09 
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
引用自 Varyn GER
No, you wont get ladders or anything contructable from others when playing online with option 2 and 3 off - but you still get the standard help with roads. I suggest you play online with the options 2 and 3 disabled. If those minor multiplayer parts left still bugger you, you can go offline whenever you want.

so what is left if i disable signs and constructions? roads, lost cargo, bikes? or...?
What's disabled: Vehicles, any constructions built with a tool, Ropes, Ladders and signs.

What's still in: mushrooms+stonepiles (pee and restplaces you create unwillingly), trample ways (often used paths get a darker texture), footprints of a few ppl (your player-cluster), lost cargo from others in the wild, community stash access, you can ask for help on upgrading one of your buildings, you get delivery requests of others (rarely, because it's usually not needed... you pretty much have more than enough materials to craft whatever you need equipment wise. Only upgrading your buildings or building roads is a real ressource sink.), Likes from others when they use or actively like your stuff (as they can see it, if they enabled it) - but those likes are pretty worthless, as they only upgrade your bridge-xp(like)-tree, which only improves stuff for multiplayer. But it's a nice feeling nomatter how useless gameplaywise=)
最後修改者:Varyn [GER]; 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:11
MasterDrake 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:14 
引用自 Varyn GER
引用自 MasterDrake
are you sure that zone is already under the chiral network?
Try to press the R3 button near that road and if it's darker than the rest, you have to find the prepper
Maybe you'll missed one
It is... because it's a screenshot with the network overlay enabled ;o) Look top left, the area with the writer boy is missing to the network. (if I'm remembering that area correctly)
my bad then :)
I've never seen requirements so high
i just wanted to say that if the area isn't connected to the chiral network, the requirements are higher than normal and as far as i know the game doesn't tell you that.
Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Varyn GER
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity

so what is left if i disable signs and constructions? roads, lost cargo, bikes? or...?
What's disabled: Vehicles, any constructions built with a tool, Ropes, Ladders and signs.

What's still in: mushrooms+stonepiles (pee and restplaces you create unwillingly), trample ways (often used paths get a darker texture), footprints of a few ppl (your player-cluster), lost cargo from others in the wild, community stash access, you can ask for help on upgrading one of your buildings, you get delivery requests of others (rarely, because it's usually not needed... you pretty much have more than enough materials to craft whatever you need equipment wise. Only upgrading your buildings or building roads is a real ressource sink.), Likes from others when they use or actively like your stuff (as they can see it, if they enabled it) - but those likes are pretty worthless, as they only upgrade your bridge-xp(like)-tree, which only improves stuff for multiplayer. But it's a nice feeling nomatter how useless gameplaywise=)

Ohh man, thanks for all this info bro, appreciate it!
最後修改者:Shizofrend98HR†; 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:17
Varyn [GER] 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:28 
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
引用自 Varyn GER
What's disabled: Vehicles, any constructions built with a tool, Ropes, Ladders and signs.

What's still in: mushrooms+stonepiles (pee and restplaces you create unwillingly), trample ways (often used paths get a darker texture), footprints of a few ppl (your player-cluster), lost cargo from others in the wild, community stash access, you can ask for help on upgrading one of your buildings, you get delivery requests of others (rarely, because it's usually not needed... you pretty much have more than enough materials to craft whatever you need equipment wise. Only upgrading your buildings or building roads is a real ressource sink.), Likes from others when they use or actively like your stuff (as they can see it, if they enabled it) - but those likes are pretty worthless, as they only upgrade your bridge-xp(like)-tree, which only improves stuff for multiplayer. But it's a nice feeling nomatter how useless gameplaywise=)

Ohh man, thanks for all this info bro, appreciate it!
I just do it for the likes ;)

引用自 MasterDrake
引用自 Varyn GER
It is... because it's a screenshot with the network overlay enabled ;o) Look top left, the area with the writer boy is missing to the network. (if I'm remembering that area correctly)
my bad then :)
I've never seen requirements so high
i just wanted to say that if the area isn't connected to the chiral network, the requirements are higher than normal and as far as i know the game doesn't tell you that.
I was at that road a few hours ago, and i think it was pretty expensive, but not that much like on the screenshot. Maybe it's difficulty dependent, I'm playing on hard and
引用自 Shuras
might play on very hard?
最後修改者:Varyn [GER]; 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:28
MasterDrake 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 3:29 
引用自 Varyn GER
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity

Ohh man, thanks for all this info bro, appreciate it!
I just do it for the likes ;)

引用自 MasterDrake
my bad then :)
I've never seen requirements so high
i just wanted to say that if the area isn't connected to the chiral network, the requirements are higher than normal and as far as i know the game doesn't tell you that.
I was at that road a few hours ago, and i think it was pretty expensive, but not that much like on the screenshot. Maybe it's difficulty dependent, I'm playing on hard and
引用自 Shuras
might play on very hard?
oh right, the difficulty!!
I forgot about it, i played in normal so it makes sense that maybe he played on hard or very hard
k'nt (已封鎖) 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 8:34 
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
I heard game is too easy and immersion breaking if you play online cuz theres buildings, ropes, ladders, signs, roads and stuff everywhere.
Can I play offline since beggining and continue playing without internet acsses? How hard game will be offline? Someone said it takes too long to build roads solo? Do they plan on maybe contricting server size from 100 to like 25 players?
p.s. when do u guys think this will be on sale? It's been out for consoles a good while now so we should expect a pc steam sale rather soon, no?

Don't ever buy the game

Leave

Don't converse with people in the forum

You will feel better

Play fortnite maybe that will be your type of game.
Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 9:42 
引用自 Уф
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
I heard game is too easy and immersion breaking if you play online cuz theres buildings, ropes, ladders, signs, roads and stuff everywhere.
Can I play offline since beggining and continue playing without internet acsses? How hard game will be offline? Someone said it takes too long to build roads solo? Do they plan on maybe contricting server size from 100 to like 25 players?
p.s. when do u guys think this will be on sale? It's been out for consoles a good while now so we should expect a pc steam sale rather soon, no?

Don't ever buy the game

Leave

Don't converse with people in the forum

You will feel better

Play fortnite maybe that will be your type of game.

lol. who put sand in your underwear?

no i hate fortnite. i prefer stuff like witcher 3 and rdr2.

yes, i will converse.

no, ill buy it maybe.

u choose a rather mild thing to start up a muss about.

whats wrong with playing the game right way and having more immersion?

ćini se da imaš previše kurca u šupku momak

u should talk to someone kiddo

stop bumpin answered threads if u have nothing non r****ded to contribute to convo
最後修改者:Shizofrend98HR†; 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 10:01
Commander Hitman2b 2020 年 7 月 25 日 下午 10:35 
引用自 DizzieDawgie
引用自 Orion
Some segments require massive amounts of resources that you simply can't carry all at once, so yes, it will take a long time.
Define "long time" and "massive amounts". Maybe later in the game it gets worse, but with a bike or truck one can carry a lot of materials in one trip, and even a couple trips on foot isn't necessarily what I'd call a "long time", but maybe I'm just a very patient person.
long in the fact that you won't have the ressource at first to build them directly to help during the way
pizza4life 2020 年 7 月 26 日 上午 1:20 
You can build those structures a lot, but that means you'll have to do a LOT of repeated trips and you'll feel burn out eventually, for a little bit of benefit.
Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 26 日 上午 8:37 
引用自 pizza4life
You can build those structures a lot, but that means you'll have to do a LOT of repeated trips and you'll feel burn out eventually, for a little bit of benefit.
But to progress main storyline quest?
I'm sorta fine with doing few more trips since I love the soundtrack.
Is this repeated grindy gameplay loop crucial to continueing the main story tho?
Varyn [GER] 2020 年 7 月 26 日 上午 10:26 
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
引用自 pizza4life
You can build those structures a lot, but that means you'll have to do a LOT of repeated trips and you'll feel burn out eventually, for a little bit of benefit.
But to progress main storyline quest?
I'm sorta fine with doing few more trips since I love the soundtrack.
Is this repeated grindy gameplay loop crucial to continueing the main story tho?
Not at all. The game is pretty easy once you get the hang of it even on highest difficulty. You can just move through the main story - thats not grindy. But you might wanna do some quests to improve your rating at different locations to unlock upgrades etc, which make your life easier, more comfortable.
Shizofrend98HR† 2020 年 7 月 26 日 上午 10:33 
引用自 Varyn GER
引用自 GeraltOfNightCity
But to progress main storyline quest?
I'm sorta fine with doing few more trips since I love the soundtrack.
Is this repeated grindy gameplay loop crucial to continueing the main story tho?
Not at all. The game is pretty easy once you get the hang of it even on highest difficulty. You can just move through the main story - thats not grindy. But you might wanna do some quests to improve your rating at different locations to unlock upgrades etc, which make your life easier, more comfortable.

Thanks!
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