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Sur.Vival Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:03am
Any updates on the AVX support for the old CPU?
As title.
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Taran Tatsuuchi Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:20am 
Quite literally the most recent news post specifically says they added checks for avx cpu in the newest patch...
Bandy Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:30am 
It is harsh reality check but may be time to plant that potato, upgrade to a PC so you can enjoy newly released games the way they were meant to be viewed. And just FYI, I can say this b/c my CPU is 8 years old but K-chip OC'd... OR just buy a console...

*Please note that, in addition to being below minimum configuration, some processors may be incompatible with the game or some specific features as stated below:
- Processors without SSE 4.X Instruction Set (deployed in 2006)
- Processors without AVX Instruction Set

CPUs with AVX Support

Intel
Sandy Bridge processor, Q1 2011
Sandy Bridge E processor, Q4 2011
Ivy Bridge processor, Q1 2012
Ivy Bridge E processor, Q3 2013
Haswell processor, Q2 2013
Haswell E processor, Q3 2014
Broadwell processor, Q4 2014
Broadwell E processor, Q2 2016
Skylake processor, Q3 2015
Kaby Lake processor, Q3 2016(ULV mobile)/Q1 2017(desktop/mobile)
Skylake-X processor, Q2 2017
Coffee Lake processor, Q4 2017
Cannon Lake (microarchitecture) processor, expected in 2018
Cascade Lake processor, expected in 2018
Ice Lake processor, expected in 2018

AMD ...

Note: Not all CPUs from the listed families support AVX. Generally, CPUs with the commercial denomination "Core i3/i5/i7" support them, whereas "Pentium" and "Celeron" CPUs don't.
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Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Taran Tatsuuchi:
Quite literally the most recent news post specifically says they added checks for avx cpu in the newest patch...

They have added it, doesn't actually change anything though.

I got a reply from their support email and they basically gave me a list of CPUs that support AVX and said that the devs are looking if there's a way they can fix the issue but due to AVX being a performance related function, they can't be certain.

Also @Brandy - my CPU is 10 years old and missing the AVX whatever function but it's perfectly capable of running the newest games, for example I've played through the entirety of Red Dead 2 which is a gorgeous looking game with no issues. It's still a beefy CPU, the only let down is indeed the lack of AVX. HOWEVER, saying that - I actually have bought a new CPU, i'm just waiting for the new motherboard to turn up.
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Craga Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:57am 
Why do people constantly expect devs to cater to their ancient hardware rather than upgrade with the times? It's ridiculous
Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by Craga2020:
Why do people constantly expect devs to cater to their ancient hardware rather than upgrade with the times? It's ridiculous

We expect it because there's plenty of games that run just fine on older CPUs.

I have almost 700 games in my steam list, there are only 2 that have had issues running on my CPU. One is Death Stranding, the other was Squad which the devs fixed and now it runs just fine.
cyäegha Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by Kilgore - Someday:
I got a reply from their support email and they basically gave me a list of CPUs that support AVX and said that the devs are looking if there's a way they can fix the issue

fix what issue?
the performance gains from utilizing the AVX instruction-set by and far outweigh the exclusion of pre-sandy bridge chipsets, most of which would not be able to run the game at full speed anyway

most if not all CPUs manufactured since then support AVX, and conversely most if not all CPUs that do not support AVX are likely too weak to run the game, with or without overclocking

there is no use-case in which sacrificing the performance of the masses to please a very miniscule few holdouts on ancient hardware is worthwhile in terms of cost-benefit

TL;DR - 505 is under no prerogative to add AVX support
Sur.Vival Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Kilgore - Someday:
Originally posted by Craga2020:
Why do people constantly expect devs to cater to their ancient hardware rather than upgrade with the times? It's ridiculous

We expect it because there's plenty of games that run just fine on older CPUs.

I have almost 700 games in my steam list, there are only 2 that have had issues running on my CPU. One is Death Stranding, the other was Squad which the devs fixed and now it runs just fine.

Totally agree!
Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by cyäegha:
Originally posted by Kilgore - Someday:
I got a reply from their support email and they basically gave me a list of CPUs that support AVX and said that the devs are looking if there's a way they can fix the issue

fix what issue?
the performance gains from utilizing the AVX instruction-set by and far outweigh the exclusion of pre-sandy bridge chipsets, most of which would not be able to run the game at full speed anyway

most if not all CPUs manufactured since then support AVX, and conversely most if not all CPUs that do not support AVX are likely too weak to run the game, with or without overclocking

there is no use-case in which sacrificing the performance of the masses to please a very miniscule few holdouts on ancient hardware is worthwhile in terms of cost-benefit

TL;DR - 505 is under no prerogative to add AVX support

As in fix it so that the game runs for people, wether they have AVX capability or not.

They'd obviously not remove AVX that would be dumb. As I've mentioned in other threads, when the game Squad updated to the new unreal engine, this exact same issue happened. They simply made it so that the game still ran, regardless if your CPU supported AVX or not. Also the game ran just fine, I was still able to keep an easy 60fps while playing it.

Personally my CPU is a decade old yes but it has no issues performance/FPS wise. Like I said, the only issues i've ran into is Death Stranding and Squad but squad was fixed.

It's just a compatibility issue, rather than a power/performance issue
Last edited by Kilgore; Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:08am
Villain Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Craga2020:
Why do people constantly expect devs to cater to their ancient hardware rather than upgrade with the times? It's ridiculous
outdated hardwardware is not the issue. the game doesn't launch because of an unnecessary CPU restriction either the game or the denuvo is using. 
Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Villain:
Originally posted by Craga2020:
Why do people constantly expect devs to cater to their ancient hardware rather than upgrade with the times? It's ridiculous
outdated hardwardware is not the issue. the game doesn't launch because of an unnecessary CPU restriction either the game or the denuvo is using.

I've just read about that possible Denuvo issue, quite interesting and certainly makes sense that it could be possible.

Apparantley Assassins Creed Odyssey had the same issue which was fixed after a week or so.
Villain Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Bandy:
It is harsh reality check but may be time to plant that potato, upgrade to a PC so you can enjoy newly released games the way they were meant to be viewed. And just FYI, I can say this b/c my CPU is 8 years old but K-chip OC'd... OR just buy a console...

older gen non-avx CPUs are still very much capable of running modern games with no issues because most games are GPU bound. I don't have a problem running games at 1440P and 144hz.  and I'm not planning on upgrading my CPU until I see some bottleneck. 
Bandy Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by Villain:
older gen non-avx CPUs are still very much capable of running modern games with no issues because most games are GPU bound. I don't have a problem running games at 1440P and 144hz.  and I'm not planning on upgrading my CPU until I see some bottleneck.
Sure GPU for best graphics but "Most" games are not necessarily GPU bound, I know plenty that are CPU bound because of the NPC AI requirements. IOW, it depends on the games you play.

And to clarify I wasn't judging anyone's hardware choice, as mentioned, I've got an i7 2700K so I have OC'd it and fortunate it supports AVX, otherwise I'd be arguing your side. In a few years maybe? But I would just build another at that point, having budgeted for the replacement over the years and cost savings of not being on the bleeding edge. PC gaming is a hobby.
Last edited by Bandy; Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:27am
Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by Bandy:
Originally posted by Villain:
older gen non-avx CPUs are still very much capable of running modern games with no issues because most games are GPU bound. I don't have a problem running games at 1440P and 144hz.  and I'm not planning on upgrading my CPU until I see some bottleneck.
Sure GPU for best graphics but "Most" games are not necessarily GPU bound, I know plenty that are CPU bound because of the NPC AI requirements.

They also run fine on older CPUs as long as it's a beefy CPU.

It's not like there's a new magical language the CPU can't understand and decipher. It's just either 0 or 1
Bandy Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:28am 
You obviously don't get it, but OK whatever, you win.
Kilgore Jul 18, 2020 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by Bandy:
You obviously don't get it, but OK whatever, you win.

Pretty sure I do. Like I said - almost 700 games on steam alone and I can run them all just fine, if that doesn't say my CPU is perfectly capable, I don't know what does. New games or old, CPU or GPU intensive games
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