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Schiggy Jul 17, 2020 @ 5:03am
Aint the Bola Gun kinda OP ?
I just got the Bola Gun and I have 14 shots.
Every Shot is a 1 Shot and I can clear whole camps easy.
And in the camp there directly a new bola gun so I have it full again.
I dont have to use it but seems kinda weird to me.
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lefty1117 Jul 17, 2020 @ 5:06am 
Yeah but when im stacked six feet high with cargo its nice to have that gun. Dont forget to kick them after they go down
Dealer Mangan Jul 17, 2020 @ 5:12am 
Hideo Kojima's games were NEVER difficult. In MGSV there were dozens of OP items you would take with you on a mission but you rarely had any incentive to actually use them, unless you were feeling creative.
I would argue that even the rope you get in the beginning of the game is almost as much as OP, as it's also an easy one-shot (well, one-stike), infinite ammo, you only need to make sure are not allowing enemies to surround you.
In other words, it's not a hardcore survival game, it's an arcade game with a difficulty curve, fighting isn't even the main focus, so.
Friendly Jul 17, 2020 @ 5:17am 
It's not as good as you think. It temporarily stuns mules, and at least in hard difficulty this doesn't last very long at all. It only has some sort of stun effect on BTs as well... it can't kill them.
Simon May 15, 2021 @ 11:37pm 
Yeah, it's hardly OP. I was about to say it's kind of useless actually; so much so that I wasn't sure if I was even using it correctly. But as Friendly says, it only temporarily stuns mules so if you get swarmed it's basically useless. You're better off with some good old-fashioned fisty-cuffs.
Last edited by Simon; May 15, 2021 @ 11:38pm
Hiham May 15, 2021 @ 11:43pm 
Headshots incapacitates the mules/terrorists
body shots just ties them down temporarily
it's not AMAZING, but it's better than just using your strand to fight.

I like doing things the old fashioned way. Run them over with the truck (they don't die, unless you run them over two or 3 times)
Last edited by Hiham; May 15, 2021 @ 11:43pm
mello May 16, 2021 @ 1:06am 
OP indeed, both against MULEs and BTs.
I play with a mouse and headshotting MULEs for the insta-knockout is too easy, and then there's the Bola + Cord-Cutter combo for BTs, easy game.
It's the closest thing to a sniper rifle in this game.
Last edited by mello; May 16, 2021 @ 1:06am
cyäegha May 16, 2021 @ 2:14am 
it's very reliable at lower difficulties, but at very hard it's not much better than plain ol' fisticuffs, and certainly nowhere near using actual guns
the primary reason for this is that MULEs and terrorists are more inclined to swarm you at higher difficulties, and the reload time for the bola gun quickly becomes prohibitively long

it will suffice for a chapter or two, but once you have access to NL firearms, there's no reason to even consider a bola gun when playing on very hard
mello May 16, 2021 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by cyäegha:
it's very reliable at lower difficulties, but at very hard it's not much better than plain ol' fisticuffs, and certainly nowhere near using actual guns
the primary reason for this is that MULEs and terrorists are more inclined to swarm you at higher difficulties, and the reload time for the bola gun quickly becomes prohibitively long

it will suffice for a chapter or two, but once you have access to NL firearms, there's no reason to even consider a bola gun when playing on very hard

I've only played this game on Very Hard, and since the launch of the game. The Bola Gun is very strong, you can one shot the human enemies easily, the only weapon stronger are the shotguns. The Bola Gun's reload time is a non-issue, and is actually pretty fast.

https://youtu.be/WWGCTtZwZ0o

This is me playing versus MULEs on Very Hard, mostly using the Bola Gun. It's viable, even towards the end of the game.
Last edited by mello; May 16, 2021 @ 3:43am
Intruder May 16, 2021 @ 1:45pm 
Bola Gun is strong, just like tranq pistol in MGS games. What's the issue? It gets outclassed quickly but is still plenty usable but I'd rather have a grenade launcher.
johncage May 16, 2021 @ 3:32pm 
the mules aren't supposed to be boss type characters, saying that so and so equipment makes them easy to deal with is like saying the turtles in mario are really easy to beat. this isn't saying anything.
Wujek Cacek Jun 23, 2021 @ 3:40am 
I'm extremely shocked by some people saying that Bola Gun has any cons. Against Demens? Yes. Against MULEs? None.

What's so hard about standing, waiting for MULEs to get closer, aiming in their general direction and shooting at them? All you need to do is move around sometimes to dodge the spears and run to the strangled MULEs and kick them once. You can literally clear the whole camp by making the least amount of effort.

And other guns being better is not the point here. It's the fact that aaaaaall those other options you have - stealth, combat, combat manouvers, cargo throwing, smoke/stun grenades, decoy cargo - all of this goes straight into the garbage once you unlock, very early at that, the 15 ammo, quick reloading (yes, it's quick actually), aiming-not-required, medium sized, 3.5 kg weighing, cheap to make, god-almighty Bola Gun.

The real issue with Bola Gun is that you unlock it extremely early and when it happens you can ignore most of the other mechanics and weapons you have access to at that point. The MULEs don't stand a chance once you unlock the Bola and the encounters go from semi-challenging and risky to zero-challenging and non-risky.

I'm playing on Hard btw.
Last edited by Wujek Cacek; Jun 23, 2021 @ 4:09am
LIMP BISQUICK Jun 23, 2021 @ 3:55am 
I played on controller, very hard difficulty. If I got swarmed then I'd have to leave the scene. I see how it can be a bit too powerful tho since there are other options. I was thinking a charge time along with battery drain, maybe fewer shots. Idk what would be the best way to balance it.
Wujek Cacek Jun 23, 2021 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Jibbles:
I played on controller, very hard difficulty. If I got swarmed then I'd have to leave the scene. I see how it can be a bit too powerful tho since there are other options. I was thinking a charge time along with battery drain, maybe fewer shots. Idk what would be the best way to balance it.

I didn't play on Very Hard, but on Hard it's very hard to get swarmed, and if I am, I just run away. The MULEs are super slow with their reactions, so it's not a problem to just make distance and start shooting again.

I personally would try reducing the ammo count to 6 shots or something. It would still be extremely useful, the most important thing is that it wouldn't be God-mode anymore and would make raiding/passing MULEs a risk again (unless you take like three of them). Maybe also make it L sized? So stacking Bolas would be a liability for your cargo holding potential. But there are so many other ways to balance it, the charging time, battery drain, those are really good ideas.
Last edited by Wujek Cacek; Jun 23, 2021 @ 4:21am
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