The game tells you killing people will cause an apocalypse

[Cherrycat]

If you kill everyone you can and don't burn any bodies nothing happens.

Lazy or on purpose?

[Metadragon]

darkdisciple1313 původně napsal:

I love being told that I can't kill anybody, then get told that I have to go waaaaaaaaaay over there to burn the corpse if do, just in case I don't want a crater in the middle of the map. I'd rather everybody just be immortal in that case: always unconscious, but never dead.

I like challenges, but I don't like extra work to get a simple task done. Doing it the way the game wants is like cleaning mud off of a semi with a toothbrush.

So don't kill anyone then? Its literally that simple since you get a non-lethal rifle the same time you get a regular one.

[PocketYoda]

ColdNhungry původně napsal:

DanteYoda původně napsal:

Why not just burn them on the spot, why the huge drive everywhere?

When they are burnt, they release high amount of chiralium (responsible for timefall etc.) into the nearby atmosphere. Big S**tstorms basically.

Right... to justify the devs forcing us to run all over haha.

[Moon Rabbit]

WanderingArtist původně napsal:

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

The game never tells you that.

There is a cutscene in beginning where they state that if someone dies the body must be burned. Or else BT's will take the body and can cause voidouts. Im that cutscene they are taking body of a guy who suicided and if the body isn't burned within 48 hours then it can cause voidout.

It probably won't end the world though. Out in the field, it's not as big a deal. But if a corpse 'pops' near a city, it would be the end of that city. I won't spoil it here but there is a special method of disposing of bodies so a void out doesn't occur.

[Moon Rabbit]

Metadragon původně napsal:

darkdisciple1313 původně napsal:

I love being told that I can't kill anybody, then get told that I have to go waaaaaaaaaay over there to burn the corpse if do, just in case I don't want a crater in the middle of the map. I'd rather everybody just be immortal in that case: always unconscious, but never dead.

I like challenges, but I don't like extra work to get a simple task done. Doing it the way the game wants is like cleaning mud off of a semi with a toothbrush.

So don't kill anyone then? Its literally that simple since you get a non-lethal rifle the same time you get a regular one.

You can, but it's a huge inconvenience to dispose of the corpse. Luckily you get several non-lethal weapons that are really cool. Also those same non-lethal weapons (all weapons, actually) will be fitted with special ammo that can affect BT's. You'll be able to switch ammo on the fly. Also, on normal, beating the Hell out of MULES is really easy. You even have a weapon always on you that allows you to parry an attack and immediately follow up with a rapid fire hog-tying.

You can actually render an entire area safe for NPC porters by knocking out all the MULES in the area.

[REMM]

DanteYoda původně napsal:

WanderingArtist původně napsal:

There is a cutscene in beginning where they state that if someone dies the body must be burned. Or else BT's will take the body and can cause voidouts. Im that cutscene they are taking body of a guy who suicided and if the body isn't burned within 48 hours then it can cause voidout.

Why not just burn them on the spot, why the huge drive everywhere?

Haven't played the game have you

[PocketYoda]

xaeg původně napsal:

DanteYoda původně napsal:

Why not just burn them on the spot, why the huge drive everywhere?

Haven't played the game have you

No and at this point i don't intend to.

[ej]

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

You can actually render an entire area safe for NPC porters by knocking out all the MULES in the area.

But they can sometimes respawn very quickly and you often have to subdue the same enemy camp multiple times. They should have reinvented jails, I think.

[Moon Rabbit]

DanteYoda původně napsal:

ColdNhungry původně napsal:

When they are burnt, they release high amount of chiralium (responsible for timefall etc.) into the nearby atmosphere. Big S**tstorms basically.

Right... to justify the devs forcing us to run all over haha.

Well it also makes the idea of death much more dangerous. The ash and smoke are still in issue. By pumping the remains up into the air, via extremely tall chimney's, the ashes dissipate quickly before the BT's gather.

The thing is, there is no reason to even kill anyone. The non-lethal weapons are extremely effective. The bola gun is way more fun than an assault rifle. And you even get an NL assault rifle.

[ej]

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

The bola gun is way more fun than an assault rifle.

The 1st 20 times, maybe.

[Moon Rabbit]

ej původně napsal:

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

The bola gun is way more fun than an assault rifle.

The 1st 20 times, maybe.

As opposed to?

[Moon Rabbit]

Just Chill původně napsal:

Sort of.
The bola gun often renders the MULEs you hit with just tied up, but still conscious. They can free themselves, while the non-lethal assault rifle makes them KO at your first headshot.

True it depends how they are hit. You can walk up and kick them to finish the job.

[Moon Rabbit]

Just Chill původně napsal:

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

True it depends how they are hit. You can walk up and kick them to finish the job.

Indeed.
Sometimes the bola gun renders them KO too, but if you are at a MULE camp where they maniacs are shooting with live bullets at you it's a bit too unreliable to count on the bola gun.
As if you need to get to a tied up MULE and kick it, it's not that good for you when other MULEs constantly shoot at you.

I recommend a combination of Non-Lethal Assault Rifle and the Bola Gun.
Or even better, the grenade launcher as it also has sleeping gas ammunition.
Just don't walk into the gas on your own. XD

Honestly, once you get the NL assault rifle, combat becomes really easy against humans. everything is an instant KO if you just aim at the head, and tap the trigger. Or, aim at the chest and burst fire so the recoil ends up hitting them in the face on the third or so shot. Bolas use less ammo though and are way easier to hit with.

[ej]

Nuka Boy původně napsal:

As opposed to?

As opposed to not engaging enemies at all, unless forced to. Combat is not much fun after the 1st few hours or so.
Laggy 30 FPS shooting with mostly the same enemies just isn't fun. Especially due to how easy to get a random hit and fall into a chasm together with all your stuff.
And BTs, well... You either piss on them or simply run away from the Catcher. Otherwise, a waste of time.
Rubber bullet guns replace Bola anyway, coz no need to kick enemies.

[cowbell]

This voidout sounds like a fun way to clear the map of bad terrain and put up ladders and ziplines in the craters. More likes for everyone.

[Metadragon]

cowbell původně napsal:

This voidout sounds like a fun way to clear the map of bad terrain and put up ladders and ziplines in the craters. More likes for everyone.

Except voidouts cause Chiral density to increase which means more BTs and Timefall.