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Zajumc Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:48am
No exclusive fullscreen?
How can You release a PC game in 2020 without the only proper fullscreen implementation? Please Kojima Prod. add this! Let me enjoy my 144hz stutter-free experience.
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Well, stuttering has no bearing on proper fullscreen or borderless windowed. Rather it has an impact on performance. I have seen people complaining left and right about stuttering, and that's kinda sad to see. Especially since PS4 has zero frame drops and no stuttering whatsoever and looks (by the screenshots posted here) exactly the same with texture resolution and LOD and facial animations, draw distance, etc.
IchigoMait Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:55am 
Stuttering is because of the monitor and if you use vsync or not.
My previous monitor was stutter free when not using vsync, and used borderless mode to boot so I wouldn't have screen tearing, and then got nvidias fast sync to do the same, incase I can't force the game into non exclusive mode. I got stutter with vsync when the fps went below refresh rate and when the screen was moving.

But with the monitor I have now, I have to use vsync, because there is some weird stutter (motion jitter, when the screen is moving) always, no matter what fps I'm at, if I don't use vsync.

Difference of stutter, is that with vsync on old monitor was consistent stutter if it happened, while with new monitor without vsync it's inconsistent and more derived how fast the entire screen is in move, if the character is moving on the screen without the screen moving then it's fine.
Last edited by IchigoMait; Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:59am
sleeper Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:56am 
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/
Zajumc Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by GLUE:
Well, stuttering has no bearing on proper fullscreen or borderless windowed
You can't be more wrong, Are You new to pc gaming?
Mfreak Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:04am 
Originally posted by sleeper:
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/

You can use dsr changing you desktop resolution first, then choosing the same in the game.
IchigoMait Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by sleeper:
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/

You can enable higher res with dsr, if you set your desktop to that resolution too. You can also compensate with DPI scaling your desktop stuff.

If you revert back to your previous monitor resolution everything in your desktop will back to where it was, so don't worry about messing anything up there, also you can switch between different scaling when holding ctrl and using wheel mouse on desktop, it has different desktop icon location memory between few sizes.
IchigoMait Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Rabbit:
Originally posted by GLUE:
Well, stuttering has no bearing on proper fullscreen or borderless windowed
You can't be more wrong, Are You new to pc gaming?

You are just deluded, it has no bearing because the fault lies in the monitor not in the exclusive or non exclusive mode.

There are multiple samples where people tell the opposite, one tells it's this way the other tells it's the other way, some tell the vsync off is good, some tell vsync on is good, some tell fullscreen is good, some tell borderless is good.

Use more different monitors and cables to see that it differs, why I have no idea, I stumbled upon a guy who is tech junkie and noticed the problem lied in the cables for them.

You don't just assume something because your experience is the same as others, you listen to all of the problems.
Last edited by IchigoMait; Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:14am
Paul Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by sleeper:
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/
This is killing me. I was looking forward to beautifully downsampled 4K image on my 1080p plasma and...nothing.

WHY THE FRAK.
IchigoMait Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by sleeper:
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/
This is killing me. I was looking forward to beautifully downsampled 4K image on my 1080p plasma and...nothing.

WHY THE FRAK.
Use the DSR on the desktop, when it's non exclusive mode, then it depends if the game let's you choose it or not, some games let you use higher res and scale up accoridngly without changing your windows resolution. But if you want it to work, just change the desktop resolution for that screen. If you use multiscreen option, then do it for that screen, unless you're using clone, then for the main screen.
Last edited by IchigoMait; Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:35am
burn Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:46am 
For GSync Users:

set these globals in NVCP (Nvida Control Panel)
GSync ON
frame limit cap set to 3 frames under your montior's native refresh rate
(ex. if native is 144Hz, set to 141 cap.)
VSync ON

set these parameters in game:

VSync OFF in game

run the game in fullscreen mode.

if you're still having problems, try disabling full screen optimizations.

while the game is running, bring up task manager, right click the games process, go to properties, compatibility, and place a checkmark for "disable fullscreen optimizations", press OK. close the game, and re-launch the game.

Micro Stutters should be gone.
Last edited by burn; Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:49am
Bylund Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by burn:
run the game in fullscreen/fullscreen exclusive mode.

There is no fullscreen exclusive mode in DirectX 12-games. Pray for Vulkan support.
Falkentyne Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:52am 
You can force exclusive fullscreen in any game.

Either by clicking the game exe properties and choosing "disable fullscreen optimizations" or do that in addition to in combination with these registry settings:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\GameConfigStore] “GameDVR_FSEBehaviorMode”=dword:00000002 “GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode”=dword:00000001 “GameDVR_FSEBehavior”=dword:00000002 “GameDVR_DXGIHonorFSEWindowsCompatible”=dword:00000001
Save the file and make sure to change its extension to reg.

You can open a windows notepad file, and save this into windows notepad:

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\GameConfigStore]
"GameDVR_FSEBehaviorMode"=dword:00000002
"GameDVR_Enabled"=dword:00000000
"GameDVR_FSEBehavior"=dword:00000002
"GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode"=dword:00000001
"GameDVR_DXGIHonorFSEWindowsCompatible"=dword:00000001
"GameDVR_EFSEFeatureFlags"=dword:00000000

-----------------------------
Save this (without the dashes of course) as .reg file extension then run it.
If that doesn't work right click the game executable properties in addition to this and do the disable fullscreen optimizations checkbox.
burn Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Bylund:
Originally posted by burn:
run the game in fullscreen/fullscreen exclusive mode.

There is no fullscreen exclusive mode in DirectX 12-games. Pray for Vulkan support.

using the method described above, you can disable "full screen optimizations" and the game will revert to "true" full screen mode.
Last edited by burn; Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:53am
Bylund Jul 14, 2020 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by Falkentyne:
You can force exclusive fullscreen in any game.

I'm aware of "Disable fullscreen optimizations". That will not allow exclusive fullscreen on DX12-games.
Zer01neDev Jul 14, 2020 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by IchigoMait:
Originally posted by sleeper:
and it's not possible to use DSR in this game because of the missing fullscreen option. I`ve got a 1080p monitor and use DSR on all my games to raise the resolution to 4k or 1440p :/

You can enable higher res with dsr, if you set your desktop to that resolution too. You can also compensate with DPI scaling your desktop stuff.

If you revert back to your previous monitor resolution everything in your desktop will back to where it was, so don't worry about messing anything up there, also you can switch between different scaling when holding ctrl and using wheel mouse on desktop, it has different desktop icon location memory between few sizes.

The game as Hardcoded Resolution, you can not change anything.
DF Tester the game.
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