Spoiler: Can you play a neutral or good demon?

[Kuno]

I really like the idea of playing a chracter who relunctantly gives into those demonic powers to protect others. I also saw some evil choices in the Angel path and noticed that the Angel path also kind of branches into a more lawful and a more good one. So is there a NC path for the demon? Or even a good one?

[GrandMajora]

Depends on if you care about role playing, or not.

According to the game mechanics, you can play any of the paths as any alignment.

According to the LORE, then the answer is 'no.' You should not be able to become a Demon if you are anything other than Chaotic Evil.

Also, some of the transformation quests may be limited by alignment choices. I know that Zecharius will explicitly state he can't transform you into a Lich, if your character isn't evil.

Becoming a Devil also requires to either be Lawful Evil, or else pass several Persuasion checks.

[Kuno]

Ursprungligen skrivet av GrandMajora:

Depends on if you care about role playing, or not.

According to the game mechanics, you can play any of the paths as any alignment.

According to the LORE, then the answer is 'no.' You should not be able to become a Demon if you are anything other than Chaotic Evil.

Also, some of the transformation quests may be limited by alignment choices. I know that Zecharius will explicitly state he can't transform you into a Lich, if your character isn't evil.

Becoming a Devil also requires to either be Lawful Evil, or else pass several Persuasion checks.

Thank you very much for the answer. I am not really gonna go with the Lore perspective of things, but more with the mechanics. So that does mean that I am able to play a chaotic neutral or even good demon, right? Do I loose out on content in that or is it just as viable as the Chaotic Evil paths?

[Lord Doober De La Goober MXI]

I'm heard talk about that too "Paths within paths", heard that Aeon's can be either an "true" Aeon (LN) or an renegade (LG)

[Sador]

You don't have to be evil to become lich as far as I know, but he will force you away from good (to neutral).

[Stechhelm]

Ursprungligen skrivet av GrandMajora:

Depends on if you care about role playing, or not.

According to the game mechanics, you can play any of the paths as any alignment.

According to the LORE, then the answer is 'no.' You should not be able to become a Demon if you are anything other than Chaotic Evil.

Also, some of the transformation quests may be limited by alignment choices. I know that Zecharius will explicitly state he can't transform you into a Lich, if your character isn't evil.

Becoming a Devil also requires to either be Lawful Evil, or else pass several Persuasion checks.

Arueshalae isn't chaotic evil

I dont know about the Lich part later in the game, but i still had the choise to become a Lich as an not evil char.

[CHAO$$$]

How do companions react to demon / lich btw?
Do they leave depending on certain actions, do they leave just because or do they not really care unlike swarm?

If so - which ones?

[JustSmile]

Mechanically, so long as you stay adjacent to CE you can progress as demon. Storyline-wise, it does not make much sense other than as CE.

It's about giving in and harnessing the selfish power of demonkind, surrendering to the demonic rage and riding the wave so to speak. Yes, there's Aruesh, but her case is extraordinary in a dozen ways, starting but not ending with "a perceived lifetime of a goddess' personal attention". Her entire character story is about defying the nature of a demon and fighting against herself. Does not make much sense for the player who's on the opposite path, of delving into it to be anything but chaotic evil.

[stars2heaven]

There are some quests for the paths that will need you to be a certain alignment to progress. No reason you can't change alignment after getting past all of them, but I'm not sure how many there are for each mythic path. Aeon has one early on where you must be lawful to progress.

[Sador]

Ursprungligen skrivet av CHAO$$$:

How do companions react to demon / lich btw?
Do they leave depending on certain actions, do they leave just because or do they not really care unlike swarm?

If so - which ones?

For Lich: Supposedly (only) Seelah will leave, if you become a full lich near the end.

[GodfatherPlunger]

Chaotic Neutral would be somewhat reasonable I think, because it gives you more room for some variation, but Chaotic Good is not. I am not that far, but it might happen that your mythic path quest requires decisions that go directly against your characters alignment (good) and it would break immersion imo, if your chaotic good character has to do something chaotic evil for his mthic progression. (not sure if they are even possible as a "good" character)

[angeltime]

dunno how about CG, but i'm playin CN demon right now and didn't see any problems since demon path dialogue choices mostly chaotic, not evil though i know that choosing demon path choice further in game will kill queen and all companions with good alignment... sure. you can choose "good" option instead and they all will live but it's kinda anticlimactic. oh, and arushalae will leave. so it's probably good idea to get more mercenaries before they'll become pricey

[JustSmile]

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Arueshalae isn't chaotic evil

Sure, but you're ignoring that her entire character is built around rejecting her demonic nature while demon myth path is built around PC seeking out and giving in to aforementioned demonic nature. Literal opposites.

[Uzkin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mako Kilo:

Arueshalae isn't chaotic evil

That's due to divine intervention. Divine intervention is the only exception to certain otherwise definite rules; for example, it is possible to remove the oracle curse via it. Such a thing almost never occurs though. E.g. Arue is the only known non-CE demon in existence.

This extremely rare event simply does not occur for the PC, thus s/he must descend towards CE if s/he's on the demonic path -- just like s/he must accept an oracle curse if s/he chooses to be an oracle.

[Kuno]

Ursprungligen skrivet av angeltime:

dunno how about CG, but i'm playin CN demon right now and didn't see any problems since demon path dialogue choices mostly chaotic, not evil though i know that choosing demon path choice further in game will kill queen and all companions with good alignment... sure. you can choose "good" option instead and they all will live but it's kinda anticlimactic. oh, and arushalae will leave. so it's probably good idea to get more mercenaries before they'll become pricey

I see. Thanks for the spoiler. So if I wanted to play a more selfish but not evil character, Azata or Trickster would be better?

PS: What even is the Trickster? I assume a Fay?

[Sister of Silence]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Kuno:

PS: What even is the Trickster? I assume a Fay?

I'm playing trickster and it's basically a whimsically insane chaotic neutral path. It does remind me of a Fey elder. You get spells like summon beer elemental, can shoot fish at people and has some utterly ridiculous dialogue solutions. It's fun but not very realistic.