Save Your Midnight Bolts! (Minor Spoilers)

[GrandMajora]

If you want to unlock the secret ascension ending, you're going to need to save your Midnight bolts for specific enemies. This ammunition is necessary to acquire the Fresh Nahyndrian Crystals you will need for ascending the rest of your party members. A minimum of 5 is required to ascend the entire party, but this is optional.

Now, who should you be using these bolts on, you might ask? Why, demon lords, of course.

If you shoot a demon lord with a midnight bolt, they will drop a fresh crystal, which you can then loot. Although for the boss battle in the city of Iz, the crystal must be collected BEFORE the battle is over, or else the boss will destroy the arena and you'll lose your chance to get it.

[Kurosu]

Small correction : they are called midnight bolts in the english version ( I assume you got blackbolts from translating )

[Legat]

How many are in the game?? I lost 1 (

[アンジェル]

It should be actually having a spoiler warning.

There is a great guide on Steam which tells you more about how to achieve that ending and how many of those midnight bolts can be found.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2597672484

For most players it is irrelevant, since without knowing the probability having already a step towards the secret ending wrong is extremely high.

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by Legat:

How many are in the game?? I lost 1 (

Originally posted by Legat:

How many are in the game?? I lost 1 (

Around 5, same as the amount of crystals you can get

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

It should be actually having a spoiler warning.

There is a great guide on Steam which tells you more about how to achieve that ending and how many of those midnight bolts can be found.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2597672484

For most players it is irrelevant, since without knowing the probability having already a step towards the secret ending wrong is extremely high.

I got a step wrong within the very first 10 minutes of the game. And I discovered this guide while in act 3. Needless to say , I butchered act 2 entirely

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Small correction : they are called midnight bolts in the english version ( I assume you got blackbolts from translating )

Woops, gonna correct it, then.

I do have the english version. It's the only language I speak, of course.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

It should be actually having a spoiler warning.

There is a great guide on Steam which tells you more about how to achieve that ending and how many of those midnight bolts can be found.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2597672484

For most players it is irrelevant, since without knowing the probability having already a step towards the secret ending wrong is extremely high.

I got a step wrong within the very first 10 minutes of the game. And I discovered this guide while in act 3. Needless to say , I butchered act 2 entirely

I discovered the guide and any hints towards a secret ending while in act 3.

My personal advice: do not think about it on your first playthrough. Just ignore the guide and enjoy the game, especially if some of those steps goes against your roleplay. For me it was just my choice on the wardstone which makes the secret ending unreachable. Yet I do not regret it since at that point I did not know about it.

Once you completed the game and play again, you start to see all the hints ingame towards the secret ending.

It is still a semi-impossible feat, especially without abusing saving and reload, considering the very high difficult dialogue checks.

Do not play by a guide at first. Play with having fun, I say.

[Sister of Silence]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Kurosu:

I got a step wrong within the very first 10 minutes of the game. And I discovered this guide while in act 3. Needless to say , I butchered act 2 entirely

I discovered the guide and any hints towards a secret ending while in act 3.

My personal advice: do not think about it on your first playthrough. Just ignore the guide and enjoy the game, especially if some of those steps goes against your roleplay. For me it was just my choice on the wardstone which makes the secret ending unreachable. Yet I do not regret it since at that point I did not know about it.

Once you completed the game and play again, you start to see all the hints ingame towards the secret ending.

It is still a semi-impossible feat, especially without abusing saving and reload, considering the very high difficult dialogue checks.

Do not play by a guide at first. Play with having fun, I say.

From what I understood in another guide that wardstone choice doesn't make the ending unreacheable, you just have one less option.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

From what I understood in another guide that wardstone choice doesn't make the ending unreacheable, you just have one less option.

Demon and Trickster paths both get to fight an extra demon lord in their mythic quest chains, so you may be able to do without the dagger.

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

From what I understood in another guide that wardstone choice doesn't make the ending unreacheable, you just have one less option.

Demon and Trickster paths both get to fight an extra demon lord in their mythic quest chains, so you may be able to do without the dagger.

Those 2 demons help if you missed a crystal. You also get another by a companion quest

The Wardstone choice is about the dagger ,there is no alternative for it BUT you need 5/7 points to get the ending so you can in theory afford to lose it .

You can also always just get the dagger back with toybox mod. Its not the choice that matters but the dagger being in your bag.

[Aldon]

I'm in my first playthrough. What makes that (for me still unknown ending) more secret than every other i don't know about? And why should I care to follow a strict path to gain a special ending (as there is no benefits, like following a guide to obtain a valuable item or feat or something, as the game is over afterwards) in a game, which is all about choosing/forming your own destiny?

[Vi]

Is this ascension the best ending ?

[urartu]

Best ending is the ending you want.

[Fluff]

I wouldn't call it Best ending.

I would call it Power ending for sure though.

I'm on Azata path and i'm pretty sure it will be the Best ending in terms of Happy End. I don't even rly wanna go for secret ending, but will do if i go for 2nd playthrough.

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by Vi:

Is this ascension the best ending ?

Not unless you want it to. But just like Kingmaker people assume that secret ending = cannon/best ending which ofc is not necesarily true