Purple Stone Knife

[Kevko]

So for some reason I realised the knife was gone towards the end of act 4. I believe I gave it to the Storyteller and didn't check to see if I got it back from him after he takes a look. Did this happen to anyone else? Does he give it back later?

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Homer Morisson:

Either way, if it truly was a bug or whatever, you can always re-add it to your inventory via ToyBox.

Also, check your equipment. I think I remember the purple stone knife being auto equipped to the 4th weapon slot in the past.

[Homer Morisson]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Homer Morisson:

Either way, if it truly was a bug or whatever, you can always re-add it to your inventory via ToyBox.

Also, check your equipment. I think I remember the purple stone knife being auto equipped to the 4th weapon slot in the past.

Yep, when you initially pick it up, it’s locked to WS4, until you’re done with the Storyteller.

After that, it’s still there, but can now be unequipped.

[zombygunner]

Speaking of knives did they fix the 21 daggers quest yet? Its only been years. Thanks for all the dlc though.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by zombygunner:

Speaking of knives did they fix the 21 daggers quest yet? Its only been years. Thanks for all the dlc though.

What was broken with it? I've never had a problem completing it before.

[Gold Dragon]

Only the Angel Mythic path can complete it by Design.

[zombygunner]

I still have all but one left to get and i never found it but it was a save from a long time ago. i did look and i found a bunch of post calling it a bug but it could be just a failed check or something and thats why i never found it. Either way thanks.

[Erei]

The knife is not needed anymore with DLC. And never was for Demon/Trickster.
With the midnight isle DLC you get another opportunity for a crystal.

Obviously it depends on player choices and all that.

Also, you can do the "secret ending" without it. You do need 6 crystal for the "maximum" for it tho.

Originally posted by Gold Dragon:

Only the Angel Mythic path can complete it by Design.

That's not true. Angel/demon choice in act 1 doesn't lock you into anything. Angel and demon are the 2 options in Drezen that are always available. Everything else need to be unlocked.
True Aeon (but not regular Aeon), legend and possibly swarm (it used to be impossible but the slides for it existed) can't use the secret ending. Maybe gold dragon now. Everyone else can do it no problem.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Erei:

That's not true. Angel/demon choice in act 1 doesn't lock you into anything. Angel and demon are the 2 options in Drezen that are always available. Everything else need to be unlocked.

They're talking about the quest where you gather the 20 something knives at Palura's Falls.

Only the Angel path gets to come to this place early, which allows them to gather all the knives and turn them in before the demons wipe the place out.

[Gold Dragon]

Yes, Trickster can get to the outer portion in Act 3 via the Hippogryph, Trickster can NOT get the 2 or so that are inside, nor can (s)he turn them in, or even GET the quest.

[Shahadem]

Originally posted by Enlino:

Originally posted by Mermidion:

Mainly should you choose Aeon answer. which i always thought was kind of a bad desigh choice. since if you dont choose the Aeon answer, than that mythic path is blocked from later, but others are not if you dont choose them, so Aeon loose the knife, no matter what.

Aeon can get the knife back in act 5 thanks to their time travel shenanigans.

So angels who are created from the souls who lived on the material plane are ruining the natural order when they enter the material plane they came from, but altering the flow of time itself is aok? Aeons are hypocritical morons.

[Shahadem]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Originally posted by Dinonoms:

Is there any use for that item later on except showing it to the Storyteller if you didn't show it to him beforehand?

It's one of the crystals you can use for the ending. You know the ones you harvest from Demon Lords.

You can also return the knife to its rightful owner in Act 4.

You mean to Deskari?

Rightful owner of a knife created from a demon's essence is a bit of an interesting legal thought experiment.

Who owns the knife?

The demon whose essence it is?

The person who formed it from demonic essence?

The Aeon who wanted to use it to destroy the pillar?

Actually now that I think about it the order of events makes no damned sense.

The knife was created by the Architect using the blood spilled by the PC hitting Deskari in the chest with the special crossbow bolt AFTER Deskari had already left. So there is no way that an Aeon could have taken up the knife and then been killed by Deskari.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Originally posted by Enlino:

Aeon can get the knife back in act 5 thanks to their time travel shenanigans.

So angels who are created from the souls who lived on the material plane are ruining the natural order when they enter the material plane they came from, but altering the flow of time itself is aok? Aeons are hypocritical morons.

Aeons are not altering the flow of time just for the sake of their own benefit. They're altering the flow of time to correct mistakes which should not have happened.

There should not be a portal linking the Abyss with the material plane. Demons should not be walking around, freely or otherwise. They belong in the Abyss, and Golarion is the domain of mortals.

True Aeons seek to correct history by ensuring the World Wound was never opened to begin with. Thus undoing a century of violations to the cosmic order.

Aeons are beyond the petty affairs of mortals. They don't exist to enforce regional laws and stability. They're made to enforce order on a cosmic scale.

[Erei]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Originally posted by Enlino:

Aeon can get the knife back in act 5 thanks to their time travel shenanigans.

So angels who are created from the souls who lived on the material plane are ruining the natural order when they enter the material plane they came from, but altering the flow of time itself is aok? Aeons are hypocritical morons.

Aeon preserve the order and balance of the universe. Abyss is for demons, Heaven for angels and Golarion for mortals. The worldwound is breaking the balance by bringing Demons into Golarion in a way that is not intended (IE not summoning).

The angels in the wardstone are also in violation of the order.

Ultimately tho, the entire game, if you play as Aeon, is a test to see if you can be trusted with the Aeon power. If you stay true, you are, and eventually unmake the entirety of the events of the game, yourself included. There was never a worldwound, nor a wardstone, nor a Staunton Vhane defending/betraying Drezen, and Galfrey was never immortal. .
Technically speaking, as Aeon, you "restore the balance" only once, at the very end of the game. Everything else is merely trials and training for that moment.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Erei:

Technically speaking, as Aeon, you "restore the balance" only once, at the very end of the game. Everything else is merely trials and training for that moment.

Except that there is evidence which suggests you still exist in some fashion or another.

The Aeon who is 'mentoring' you throughout the game is eventually revealed to be yourself from the future, and even after you rewrite time so that the World Wound never happened, you still have the opportunity to intervene with Pharasma's judgement.

Personally, I choose to headcanon this as your character either being recreated after their erasure, or because Aeons exist outside the normal boundaries of time and space, a version of you from an alternate universe takes over after you're gone.

[Erei]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Erei:

Technically speaking, as Aeon, you "restore the balance" only once, at the very end of the game. Everything else is merely trials and training for that moment.

Except that there is evidence which suggests you still exist in some fashion or another.

The Aeon who is 'mentoring' you throughout the game is eventually revealed to be yourself from the future, and even after you rewrite time so that the World Wound never happened, you still have the opportunity to intervene with Pharasma's judgement.

Personally, I choose to headcanon this as your character either being recreated after their erasure, or because Aeons exist outside the normal boundaries of time and space, a version of you from an alternate universe takes over after you're gone.

You cease to exist as a mortal from Golarion. And due to temporal stuff, one might argue than your never existed as such, but always were an Aeon. So you don't really "become" an Aeon, you always were one.

"I hate temporal mechanics."