Xanthir Vang

[Aria Athena]

They've put a dialog option just to ♥♥♥♥ you over. You beat all 3 phases, the fight is over, you go through all the dialog, and then there is an option which if you choose, he teleports in the middle of the room, fully healed, fully buffed and also spawns 5 more locust swarms all around you. Thanks Owlcat, much appreciated.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Conquista:

thats a misconception from the release of the game, when nature3 did nothing, than owlcat made nature3 do something and turns out no kingmaker items

They are coded in the game though, so I'm assuming there must be some way of getting them without mods.

[SirRantsAlot]

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Turn Nenio into an Enchantress, then Feeblemind him. Xanthir is a joke of a boss even on unfair, his saves are laughable.

OK then explain clearly what to do? I did not managed him at normal. And what if feeblemind did not work out cause he resist?

[Steffan]

Originally posted by SirRantsAlot:

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Turn Nenio into an Enchantress, then Feeblemind him. Xanthir is a joke of a boss even on unfair, his saves are laughable.

OK then explain clearly what to do? I did not managed him at normal. And what if feeblemind did not work out cause he resist?

Buff. Area effects, area effects, area effects. And prioritize killing him first.

[gmwaddington]

Storm of Justice (Angel Mythic spell) works wonders against both Xanthir and his swarms,

[Iron Man]

Surprised there's not more frustration around this. Achievement be damned; it's yet another disrespectful move on the part of the devs with regard to time. Put an autosave in at least if you're going to do something like that. I had to slog through the fight and was trying to wrap up the dialogue because I had to leave for work and then BOOM, fight completely resets. Absolutely asinine.

[onenterframe]

They made me waste an hour on this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just because some dev thought he was clever. And it doesn't even let you save in between.

Makes no sense in game either. If the Swarm has the power to completely heal himself and reset all his spells, why wouldnt he?

It's done for the sole purpose of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the player - real people who spent money on their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ games in real life.

After having had this happen in multiple OwlCat games now, I'm over them. I'm pretty wary of them now.

[Uh Oh Stinky]

Originally posted by Iron Man:

Surprised there's not more frustration around this. Achievement be damned; it's yet another disrespectful move on the part of the devs with regard to time. Put an autosave in at least if you're going to do something like that. I had to slog through the fight and was trying to wrap up the dialogue because I had to leave for work and then BOOM, fight completely resets. Absolutely asinine.

Yeah they did something similar in kingmaker with the boss in act III (IIRC, trobold's boss or whatever) and it was annoying as ♥♥♥♥ there. At least with that he was pretty easy to beat again since no swarms or annoying ADDS. This boss fight is also really annoying playing turn based too.

[nazeer28]

If you have dlc Ulbrig doesn't swarmbane help at all?

[Razer]

Originally posted by nazeer28:

If you have dlc Ulbrig doesn't swarmbane help at all?

Even if you don't you should have no issue with swarms at this point in the game.

[hilburnashua]

There are something like 5 or 6 firestorm scrolls you can loot throught the dungeon. If you have Nenio in your party and kept her in Scroll Savant until at least 10th level she should be able to keep those swarms pretty well blasted all by herself. The fight is easy if you have completed the dungeon before and know what to expect, but some of the encounters can overwhelm someone that doesn't know a few tricks and have some good builds and flexability in the party.

Bit of a fun thing you can do. In the room where you encounter the demon that wants to betray Xanthir, you can dimension door past the secret door into the hallway, go down the hallway, dimension door past the locked door and encounter Xanthir avoiding most of the dungeon.

But this thread is over 2 years old. I can understand posting when you have trouble with an encounter, but it's better to make a new thread.

[Janthis]

Originally posted by onenterframe:

They made me waste an hour on this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just because some dev thought he was clever. And it doesn't even let you save in between.

Makes no sense in game either. If the Swarm has the power to completely heal himself and reset all his spells, why wouldnt he?

It's done for the sole purpose of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the player - real people who spent money on their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ games in real life.

After having had this happen in multiple OwlCat games now, I'm over them. I'm pretty wary of them now.

It's Owlcat, you should be used to their "Arsehole DM syndrome" by now.

What I do is just play on normal, with "Companions resurrect at the end of combat" and "Remove negative effects on rest" options enabled. I feel like it makes the game more fun and cuts through a lot of the tedious BS. And of course, saving often.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by tez3me:

hmm i have not picked that option then,it does appear to be something they like to do tho.
fights won boss decides to talk when defeated suddenly they are ready for another fight and half your party are battered :(

Bare in mind that Xanthir actually wants to die, because he is 100% done with everything, and has emotionally checked out of the situation.

He only decides to resume the fight, if you tell him he's going to become a slave for one of the many incompetent demons he so despises.

[DeathStroke]

did that to yourself from your choice of dialogue , could have just killed him at the end of the fight and been done with it , but you picked the choice to antagonise him further and threaten him with eternal slavery to the demon ( thats the only option that causes him to continue the fight )

[dieMaus]

Well I had to replay that fight again because I couldn't kill the swarms. Made a more RPG like playthrough, so no rest during the dungeon felt appropriate.
Then again, it was more luck based, second time the firestorms kicked in way harder...